Shadowbringers broke healing

[Reiryuu]

I main WHM and I don't think it is the same as before. It heals more and it's more versatile. What have changed is how you play it. You need to focus more on heals, you need to manage your mana more carefully and you need to put the new tools available with the expansion to good use. If you keep thinking like in Stormblood you will have a hard time. At least it is how I see it for my class. Now it is capable of more and imo more fun to play, but basically it is a different play style.

Really? 'cause it's been pretty much exactly the same for me more or less leveling it all through the story and such. Sure, there were a few times when the tanks were biting off more than they could chew or poorly geared, but in the 80 expert roulette? *yawn* feels like same ol' same ol' to me just minus Aero III and maybe a use of misery every 2-3 packs or so. I'd trade Misery for Aero III/Diaga(Dia II) any day.

[Yuyuka3]

I main WHM and I don't think it is the same as before. It heals more and it's more versatile. What have changed is how you play it. You need to focus more on heals, you need to manage your mana more carefully and you need to put the new tools available with the expansion to good use. If you keep thinking like in Stormblood you will have a hard time. At least it is how I see it for my class. Now it is capable of more and imo more fun to play, but basically it is a different play style.

Uhm. Are we playing the same job? I don't have to carefully manage my MP (quite the opposite, if I don't forget to use Lucid for several minutes on end, I'm not running out of MP unless I die; I had to take more care, keep Lucid on CD, in Stormblood due to the higher CD on it and worse MP recovery), I don't have to play vastly different than before outside of using my heals after the tank ran out of CDs (which is getting far better as I and the tanks gear up), and even after they ran out if CDs, all I got to do is switch to healing in time, which isn't exactly hard. On boss fights like Titania or Innocence, it feels like even less changed; I dps most of the time and switch to healing only when necessary while playing mechanics, often healing on the run now since I actually, finally got tools for that. Guess the biggest change is me wasting lilies while there's nothing to attack for the blood lily... the only reason things feel a bit weak right now is gear limitations I think.

All in all, I changed very little compared to Stormblood, and people like you absolutely baffle me since I don't get why you would think so.

[MPNZ]

It's not so much broke as half of many jobs functionality and QoL are locked behind just whatever is like the current maximum level when it should really only be refinement to actions and maybe one unique gimmick like if we could use something like "the Hanged man in reverse". And, the current adjustments to remove synergies is really hurting jobs that specialize in buffs like AST and Bard. Although, just not in their class-role functionally, but in party QoL (def buff durations, general buff durations, minne, refresh, mage's ballad, bole, protect, stoneskin II, arrow, spear, ewer, Celestial Opposition, the changes to bind during 2.0's patch cycle, aetherflow, et cetera)which is why DNC feels so weird but necessary to make the job work but didn't actually take any of the other abilities away. And, secondly, some of the job's lore identities are really messed with in the current "Heal more and destroy synergies" direction that really get under my skin for some reason

Note: most of this is just my like own internal consensus, and I only like main BRD, AST, & PLD (spr progression tnk! XD) for stuff. So, I don't really know much about jobs like NIN and MNK are doing right now for support and stuff

[Alex073088]

Honestly across the board they screwed up with healing in SHB, it's horrible. I actually quit the game thanks to it.

[EmilyRoze]

All these people in here talking about 50 dungeons and shit. Heal an extreme and tell me if you have time and mana to dps. Tired of these duty roulette people who know it all

[MerlinCross]

I dunno if it broke or not this expansion.

Tad concerned due to Adventurer in Need is almost always Healer though.

[althenawhm]

All these people in here talking about 50 dungeons and shit. Heal an extreme and tell me if you have time and mana to dps. Tired of these duty roulette people who know it all

I'm pulling about 5.5k dps in Titania EX with loads of extra MP left over.
Basically the only increased healing I've seen in ShB is on large dungeon pulls, bosses seem to be the usual amount of damage.

[MPNZ]

All these people in here talking about 50 dungeons and shit. Heal an extreme and tell me if you have time and mana to dps. Tired of these duty roulette people who know it all

But, the low level dungeons are where players start at, fall in love, and learn how to play. PPl, would regularly quit playing Monster Hunter in the past due to the early equipment and material grinding and well "kill five apatoph/velociprey/jaggi" missions, you know, which can be like two weeks for players who were new

[Stamps]

All these people in here talking about 50 dungeons and shit. Heal an extreme and tell me if you have time and mana to dps. Tired of these duty roulette people who know it all

Even when doing learning runs with PuGs, I was still spending the majority of my time DPSing.

Then when you hit farm groups, you spend almost all your time DPSing. That is to say that I spent most of my time in Ex Titania pressing 1 button over and over again. Riveting. FFXIV mechanics have always toned down the need for healing when people properly execute them and Shb is no different so far. In fact, I only run into mana issues if I choose to not DPS, not utilize my oGCDs well, and focus only on healing.

[Eloah]

My question is why is it that healing is harder for us than Alphinaud and Urinager. I swear I see them DPSing quite often.