Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[Eli85]

Its nice and all until the game has do go the F2P trashgame road because too many player dropped the game early out of frustration.

I know trash tier player aren't fun but its not that often you can't win a casual intended fight or you're all very unlucky and should consider flee elsewhere.

Considering how easy it is to do respectable damage, I doubt the player shedding would be substantial. You're just getting rid of the afkers and auto-attackers and one-skill warriors. If that took the game into F2P territory, then quite frankly the game deserves it. Not that I think it would happen.

[whiskeybravo]

Why? Why do you want to hold someone "accountable" for not devoting as much time to the game as you do? Worse, why do you want to punish yourself because your friends aren't as dedicated to a video game as you are? I don't understand this mentality. I like getting good at the game for its own sake. I like the opportunity to exhibit my competence by carrying my friends through content. I think that's much more fun than trying my best and still failing because my buddy just wasn't good enough.

Because it's an online, co-operative game, not a single player in which you can stop and smell every rose. You don't need to spend anymore time looking up a guide than you spend wasting it because you don't know what you are doing. And furthermore, in what reality is not holding someone accountable beneficial to progress?

Accountability doesn't mean punishment. It means accepting your responsibility, along with your limitations, and working to improve. Anything less is lack of respect for those around you.

[Melichoir]

Its nice and all until the game has do go the F2P trashgame road because too many player dropped the game early out of frustration.

I know trash tier player aren't fun but its not that often you can't win a casual intended fight or you're all very unlucky and should consider flee elsewhere.

I think the enrage timer does come down to a matter of telling people "Hey, if youre geared for this, you should be able to pull out this much dps. If not, then something is up."

Granted this isnt a one answer solution. If youre gonna have enrage timers, then there needs to be an ilvl minimum for the content, which then means the enrage must be beatable with the minimum ilvl, and with a moderate ilvl you can do it without issue (so long as in both cases players are performing averagely). The other side to this is actually ramping up dungeon difficulty. Boss mechanics get more difficult the higher you get into content, and I mean substantially. If it doesnt feel any harder running a lvl 35 dungeon from a lvl 55 dungeon from a lvl 70 dungeon, then the dungeons arent ramping up correctly.

This also means that SE would have to expand or provide more incentive for lower and middle level players to visit the novice hall place (the name eludes me right this minute), and information there has to be more robust and focusing on training players to do rotations while handling boss mechanics.

As long as players feel like there is some place they can go to get the basics explained to them and why it's important, you wont see people rage quit cause of difficulty. People only do that if they feel 'cheated' by boss encounters. If they die to something and know exactly why it happened, they may get frustrated or annoyed, but theyl likely plug back into it and seek to try and avoid the error.

[Nedkel]

I wonder for those 44 likes OP received.
He obviously didnt played this game long enough to know how it is in end game, he probably came here from WoW thinking he will be given everything on silver platter. He does not know what he is looking for, thinks wow classic will give him answers to the questions he asks, but he couldnt be more wrong than that.

TLDR: The challenge is gone and with it the community.

FFXIV community were always friendly casuals, this game never been better than now, there are much more people playing it than ever. Sorry but reality does not translate into your narrative at all.

[VargasVermillion]

I generally see why people don't want harder stuff in most of the game but it says something when pre 50 dungeons are harder and require a little more team work than dungeons beyond that. When was the last pharos sirius or aurum vale? Being a tank I at least miss when you had to be more aware of your surroundings.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Why does every bit of content have to be ultimate level. Like why aren't all these players wanting more challenge raiding Ultimate?

[AxlStream]

Why does every bit of content have to be ultimate level. Like why aren't all these players wanting more challenge raiding Ultimate?

Litterally nobody is asking for that. No one. We just want to not have to pull out a blanket and pillow for Expert Roulette.

[Nedkel]

I generally see why people don't want harder stuff in most of the game but it says something when pre 50 dungeons are harder and require a little more team work than dungeons beyond that. When was the last pharos sirius or aurum vale? Being a tank I at least miss when you had to be more aware of your surroundings.

Idk how Aurum Vale was in the old days, but today its not really hard at all.
Its just that you dont have your skills to go through it, i guarantee you with lvl 70 skill set this dunegon wouldnt be any harder than hells. Ala mhigo is harder, the burn is harder, The temple of fist and Kugane castle are harder too.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Litterally nobody is asking for that. No one. We just want to not have to pull out a blanket and pillow for Expert Roulette.

Then don't do it? Stick to Ultimate. Actually I don't even see that you ever made an attempt on Ultimate.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Then don't do it? Stick to Ultimate. Actually I don't even see that you ever made an attempt on Ultimate.

Or people doing Sastasha level of performance could just stick to Sastasha until they up their game.