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    Cayalle's Avatar
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    Cayalle Sunlight
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    Since the beginning of the game I have come to admire his difficulty. Whether it's in quest (Of course some some npc heals you so you do not crash, but still it's hard ... It's not like other games that you just get gives two to five attacks and it's over.) Dungeons are amazing, raid's Full of mechanics and things that the whole group should do ... It's good to fail, to see people communicating by seeing what they can and can not do to get through that obstacle. It is wrong to think that after doing something for the first time the difficulty will remain the same ... I think many people do not understand this. The real difficulty is your first going on anything ... After this you are already aware of what will happen and whether or not you already know what to do. And it's a horror to compare this game with WOW.
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    Jotaro Kujo
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    The reason WoW is bad right now is because they are following this formula

    Do your chore, get the shiny and then come back tomorrow.

    So, no, FFXIV doesn't behave like that.
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by hasana View Post
    The reason WoW is bad right now is because they are following this formula

    Do your chore, get the shiny and then come back tomorrow.

    So, no, FFXIV doesn't behave like that.
    The reason for WoW's quality might just be a little more complicated then you're making it out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    The reason for WoW's quality might just be a little more complicated then you're making it out to be.
    Well one of the biggest reason is Blizzard making the game around metrics such as playtime and not fun, engaging.

    But that World quest situation is clearly the best exemple of that kind of mentality.

    So of course it is not the only reason people quit the game but clearly is what drive most players.
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    And you guys think yoshi and crew don't look at metrics? We'll talk once Eureka comes back, again, even though it's the worst piece of "content" people have ever seen in an MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    And you guys think yoshi and crew don't look at metrics? We'll talk once Eureka comes back, again, even though it's the worst piece of "content" people have ever seen in an MMO.
    Personally I'm expecting the next eureka to be twice as much grind as the previous one.
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    Adrestia Skyborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    And you guys think yoshi and crew don't look at metrics? We'll talk once Eureka comes back, again, even though it's the worst piece of "content" people have ever seen in an MMO.
    Strongly disagree. Eureka was an amazing experience for organized group gameplay. It was utterly terrible as pug/solo content. Good pug content won’t ever look the same as good group content, and that’s why hallway dungeons with speed bumps aren’t fun to people seeking a real party experience.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    And you guys think yoshi and crew don't look at metrics? We'll talk once Eureka comes back, again, even though it's the worst piece of "content" people have ever seen in an MMO.
    I enjoyed it immensely sorry. I have multiple toons who have cleared all zones and BA. Running the same old tired content we did in 4.0 would have been a big turnoff. Relative to 5.0 I don't think they've decided yet on how the relic will be structured.
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    And you guys think yoshi and crew don't look at metrics? We'll talk once Eureka comes back, again, even though it's the worst piece of "content" people have ever seen in an MMO.
    it is like going back to MMO stone age
    I still remember wasting hours just in shout just to gather player with the right role just to form a leveling party, then if I miss 2-3 days I am done and forever left behind
    some history should not be unwritten, and Eureka type of MMO experience should be one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    The reason for WoW's quality might just be a little more complicated then you're making it out to be.
    Nah wow's problem is simply.. " do you not have phones? "
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