The loss of Shield Swipe

[Lyth]

I think that the action pruning that happens with each expansion is generally handled poorly. You can't just randomly rip out abilities from a toolkit and hope that everything still works out in the end. If you're going to take away something, integrate it elsewhere so that it doesn't feel like a loss.

There are a few good examples of how to do this correctly. Foresight gone? Here, have Rampart instead. Inner Beast gone? Here, let's change Raw Intuition from a parry cooldown into Sheltron. Convalescence gone? It's an exclusive part of the new upgraded Thrill of Battle now. Hey look, you've supposedly "lost" a bunch of abilities, but in every case, your kit gets stronger.

What's the alternative? Shield Swipe is gone. What do you get for it? No, it's just gone. Sole Survivor? Nah, it's just not there. If they're struggling over hotbar space, I'd much rather they just develop a talent tree system instead. That way, we can do the pruning ourselves. Or at the very least, come up with some sort of glamour system that lets us keep the old animations. Shadowskin had a beautiful animation.

[gman1311]

I think that the action pruning that happens with each expansion is generally handled poorly. You can't just randomly rip out abilities from a toolkit and hope that everything still works out in the end. If you're going to take away something, integrate it elsewhere so that it doesn't feel like a loss.

There are a few good examples of how to do this correctly. Foresight gone? Here, have Rampart instead. Inner Beast gone? Here, let's change Raw Intuition from a parry cooldown into Sheltron. Convalescence gone? It's an exclusive part of the new upgraded Thrill of Battle now. Hey look, you've supposedly "lost" a bunch of abilities, but in every case, your kit gets stronger.

What's the alternative? Shield Swipe is gone. What do you get for it? No, it's just gone. Sole Survivor? Nah, it's just not there. If they're struggling over hotbar space, I'd much rather they just develop a talent tree system instead. That way, we can do the pruning ourselves. Or at the very least, come up with some sort of glamour system that lets us keep the old animations. Shadowskin had a beautiful animation.

You’re making it sound like war got a straight up buff in their defense kit, while the other tanks got the shaft?

[Lyth]

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You mean that you didn't notice it yourself? It's been pretty blatant across all the expansions. The one thing that won't get homogenised is the invulns, unsurprisingly.

[gman1311]

You mean that you didn't notice it yourself? It's been pretty blatant across all the expansions. The one thing that won't get homogenised is the invulns, unsurprisingly.

But the invulns have strengths and weaknesses, and gives tanks choice on how to deal with certain mechanics.