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  1. #11
    Player
    Vallerie's Avatar
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    Valeria Ymir
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Why would your Dragoon be stuck with only Monk gear? Where did I say 'every existing maiming set should be deleted'?
    Pre-existing gear wouldn't be deleted (obviously), but all the new gear would have to choose between dragoon's knightly theme, monk's light theme, or samurai's edo period theme. And if Stormblood is anything to go by, 90% of gear would be either theme-less or mostly monk styled gear. Because I doubt they would keep making 2 sets of strength gear if they are merged. Maiming is closer to Fending than Striking in looks, and that would be lost on all new gear.
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    Last edited by Vallerie; 06-18-2019 at 06:56 PM.

  2. #12
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    MerleSirlos's Avatar
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    Fuyuki Gunji
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    I expect 1 healer so we get 4 tanks and 4 healers each. (with this expansion them trying to balance healers as patches go until they reach the point they want and can properly introduce that 4th healer)

    DPS wise we have, depending on how you split them:
    -4 melee VS 6 ranged (PvP split for feast)
    -4 melee VS 3 physical ranged VS 3 magical range
    -3 STR base VS 4 DEX base VS 3 INT base

    so for me, either a new melee to share gear with DRG (or make all STR dps share the gear) or new caster.
    INT base melee DPS could be a thing, but that would put it in the same situation as ninja where they don't share gear with anything else, so probably not. or have ninja gear have dex+int in it like they did for pre-50 gear between monk-ninja.

    We will see in about two years I guess
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  3. #13
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    Kalise's Avatar
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    Kalise Relanah
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Wishes:

    * Higher Skill Caps for jobs (Keep lowering skill floors if you have to appease horribads, but allow some level of actual ability to master a job beyond smashing your face onto the keyboard)

    * BLU as a real job

    * Necromancer as Healer

    * Sniper as rDPS

    * No more ungabunga CD's where you just spam big skill a bunch (Inner Release/Requiescat/Delirium/Hypercharge)

    Expectations:


    * No new healer ("We want to work on Healer balance instead of adding a new one" for 6th year in a row)

    * Chemist as rDPS (Because, why wouldn't they turn the Healer that many people request into the new rDPS again?)

    * New Mage job (While they keep BLU limited because reasons)

    * Monk gets crapped on again (I expect something like every skill gives them stacking -100% SkS. Every oGCD now eats all their GL stacks too.)

    * All jobs get simplified into a single spammed button, one oGCD and one ungabunga CD that makes them spam their single button more gooder.
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  4. #14
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallerie View Post
    Pre-existing gear wouldn't be deleted (obviously), but all the new gear would have to choose between dragoon's knightly theme, monk's light theme, or samurai's edo period theme. And if Stormblood is anything to go by, 90% of gear would be either theme-less or mostly monk styled gear. Because I doubt they would keep making 2 sets of strength gear if they are merged.
    Dragoons theme is palette swapping Tank gear. A trait that lets them glamour Fending gear solves that problem.

    Personally, I'd solve that particular issue across the board, if you can wear the gear on a job, you should be able to glamour it on any job. AF stuff maybe being an exception.

    I liked the links between jobs, the old cross-class stuff. Its all been scrapped and it's not coming back, but having the link between jobs being something purely cosmetic would be nice, a neat bonus for taking advantage of the 'everything on one character' selling point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    * No more ungabunga CD's where you just spam big skill a bunch (Inner Release/Requiescat/Delirium/Hypercharge)
    But it's such exciting gameplay!
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    Last edited by Jandor; 06-18-2019 at 07:31 PM.

  5. #15
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    After seeing the new ALC set, I really wish it was a Healer job.
    "Pharmacist" maybe, and would make for a nice set of 'tech' jobs (GNB, MCH and PHM)

    Then, I expect the second job will be a melee DPS, probably Maiming gear.
    But it would have to be something with a compelling image, so I don't see a mace or hammer being a good weapon choice, even though that seems to be what we're missing. Unless... it was a Gunhammer, or mechanical in some way.

    Then we'd have a full party of Magitech jobs.
    But I can only see them doing that if 6.0 is a full on Garlean focused expansion.

    Gear types would probably change.
    I can see them bundling Scouting in with Aiming, or changing NIN's stat to STR and merging it with Slaying.
    Then with the two Maiming jobs there wouldn't be any single-job gear types.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 06-18-2019 at 08:45 PM.

  6. #16
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    Vallerie's Avatar
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    Valeria Ymir
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Dragoons theme is palette swapping Tank gear. A trait that lets them glamour Fending gear solves that problem.

    Personally, I'd solve that particular issue across the board, if you can wear the gear on a job, you should be able to glamour it on any job. AF stuff maybe being an exception.

    I liked the links between jobs, the old cross-class stuff. Its all been scrapped and it's not coming back, but having the link between jobs being something purely cosmetic would be nice, a neat bonus for taking advantage of the 'everything on one character' selling point.
    I suppose that would solve the issue I have with unifying them, though I'm not sure whether they want to do that, or if they even can do it without reworking the way the game handles glamour.
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  7. #17
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    6.0:

    -Retainer bell next to Grand Company.
    -You can log out in your house/room/apartment just like an Inn.
    -You can switch audio devices without restarting the game.
    -I just want this QoL stuff added as I'm sure I'll enjoy the content anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by PondHollow View Post
    I'd really like a healer with a non-feminine image
    what does this mean? I raid with 2 male healers with male characters and they've never appeared feminine.
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  8. #18
    Player
    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    what does this mean? I raid with 2 male healers with male characters and they've never appeared feminine.
    Presumably reference to the large amount of twirling and sparkling involved in a lot of current healer skills.

    That said though, Scholar doesn't really come across as particularly feminine to me.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 06-18-2019 at 09:10 PM.

  9. #19
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Presumably reference to the large amount of twirling and sparkling involved in a lot of current healer skills. Although to be fair, Scholar doesn't really come across as particularly feminine.
    Apart from the fairy, which could be easily rectified if they expanded egi/fairy glamours!
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  10. #20
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Presumably reference to the large amount of twirling and sparkling involved in a lot of current healer skills.

    That said though, Scholar doesn't really come across as particularly feminine to me.
    interesting, i never stopped to think if job actions appeared masculine/feminine. It's an interesting request. Perhaps OP wants a healer that Falcon Punches their allies as a big heal? Or does the Manderville dance for AoE heals?
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