The 'unwritten rule' for non-tank pulls in dungeons

[Liam_Harper]

Tanks are not special, face it reality is if you are doing dungeon content and not doing large pulls as a tank you are simply a gimp dps at that point.

Then bring no tanks and all dps into your roulettes, or roll a tank yourself.

You missed the part where the tank is expected to catch every stray mob you pull and survive them, regardless of experience, gear or whether their cd's are up. Why would anyone play a gimp dps that is expected to herd chaos and play "chase the mob" while the real dps get to run around the dungeon like hyperactive 3 year olds waving their big numbers with zero blame if they die. That's why dps have a queue and tanks are instant.

I don't think dps realize that by making tanking a miserable job to play, they've added a 5-30 minute queue to their instances to save 2 minutes. That's not what I'd call intelligent...

[LalaRu]

...is there really an 'unwritten rule' that only tanks pull?...

You can do a statistic: go and pull for the tank, and do this for 100 duties. Then go back here and tell us how many times people were happy of your doing.

[kazzel120]

You absolutely blame the tank if they don't flash or Overpower.

Sure if the tank pulled all the mobs them selfs.

Its obvious you've never played a tank in any content because it sure as hell isnt bash my face into my keyboard push one button like you think lol.

And before you go and call me a bad tank i do full pulls but if i even once see crap isnt dying fast enough of my healer sucks that's the end of that you now get 1 too 2 groups only now.

[Canadane]

Sure if the tank pulled all the mobs them selfs.

Its obvious you've never played a tank in any content because it sure as hell isnt bash my face into my keyboard push one button like you think lol.

And before you go and call me a bad tank i do full pulls but if i even once see crap isnt dying fast enough of my healer sucks that's the end of that you now get 1 too 2 groups only now.

I’ve been a tank main since forever. He’s absolutely right. If someone else pulls mobs for me, it’s my job to get them. It’s also indication I’m going too slow.

[ForteNightshade]

Sure if the tank pulled all the mobs them selfs.

Its obvious you've never played a tank in any content because it sure as hell isnt bash my face into my keyboard push one button like you think lol.

And before you go and call me a bad tank i do full pulls but if i even once see crap isnt dying fast enough of my healer sucks that's the end of that you now get 1 too 2 groups only now.

... it isn't? I tank pretty regularly and it's not exactly complicated to spam Overpower/Abyssal/Decimate/Quietis while popping a CD as needed.

You could also tell them to AoE. Even if they don't, it's still better to pull at least six mobs because tank AoEs are incredibly strong. Besides, if the healer isn't DPSing, well, you're just giving them something to do instead going AFK.

[Shougun]

As tank I do whatever is comfortable, usually doing a medium size pull the first time to see how people do (which is \'usually\' wall to gate). If we're good then its touch all things and if not then we do smaller groups, sometimes the healer kept everyone up great but I noticed no aoe from the team so I might go smaller even though we're fine in the heals (or sometimes they use aoe but stand in all the orange and its 8,000 close calls, so I go smaller anyway).


Imo speed is less important than docking the ship gently, but we're going to try go fast first unless exceptions apply (sometimes it's my fault "haven't played dark knight in years... let me get comfy first please"). I use this thought process for tank stance too, if we're going stellar I'll switch but if its chaos then I dont care what is optimal dps it's about getting to the end without everything on fire lol.


In terms of others pulling for me if its chaos I'll tell them to knock it off, if something adds the healer I appreciate them or dd taking it to me. If they just pull because it's fun I only care if there are other factors like large packs with healer regens going and it's not a simple enmity ranged attack grab or not. Basically make my job hard I dont like it, bring stuff to me and we're doing well then okay thanks for the delivery lol.

[SoulEchelon]

I am sorry but for normal mode content tanks do not inherently have more responsibility over dps or healers. One could even argue that if a tank is doing single pulls it would be quicker to replace the tank with a dps.

Tanks are not special, face it reality is if you are doing dungeon content and not doing large pulls as a tank you are simply a gimp dps at that point.

Everyone's important, but you're kidding yourself if you seriously think a dps can out tank a tank even in normal dungeons. Tanks are there for a reason. The holy trinity is there for a reason. Your mentality is why we have so few tanks in the first place.

[kazzel120]

I’ve been a tank main since forever. He’s absolutely right. If someone else pulls mobs for me, it’s my job to get them. It’s also indication I’m going too slow.

And again i do full pulls but if the healer and dps suck i am not doing full pulls its that simple.

[Awha]

Then bring no tanks and all dps into your roulettes, or roll a tank yourself.

You missed the part where the tank is expected to catch every stray mob you pull and survive them, regardless of experience, gear or whether their cd's are up. Why would anyone play a gimp dps that is expected to herd chaos and play "chase the mob" while the real dps get to run around the dungeon like hyperactive 3 year olds waving their big numbers with zero blame if they die. That's why dps have a queue and tanks are instant.

I don't think dps realize that by making tanking a miserable job to play, they've added a 5-30 minute queue to their instances to save 2 minutes. That's not what I'd call intelligent...

I am a tank main, and I know for a fact when it comes to regular dungeon content when it comes to getting aggro it does not require any extra effort on my part. Dps and healers do not make tanking miserable but this self importance that tanks within this community seem to have. I mean as a tank during single pulls a I do not even have to pop any CDs.

Personally as a tank I simply do not understand why tanks feel they are the life blood of the group.

[kazzel120]

... it isn't? I tank pretty regularly and it's not exactly complicated to spam Overpower/Abyssal/Decimate/Quietis while popping a CD as needed.

You could also tell them to AoE. Even if they don't, it's still better to pull at least six mobs because tank AoEs are incredibly strong. Besides, if the healer isn't DPSing, well, you're just giving them something to do instead going AFK.

He said its hit 1 button in his earlier posts and its not hit 1 buttons jesus. I have been a tank main since 3.0.

Its also not hard to be an even half ass dps yet you see more bad dps then tanks and healers and honestly dps are easy to play too.