The 'unwritten rule' for non-tank pulls in dungeons

[MirielleLavandre]

Reading a few reddit posts, and also having some discussions with FC mates who pull for 'slow tanks', is there really an 'unwritten rule' that only tanks pull? My main in SB was PLD (before using WHM to help friends), and I always have pulled wall to wall or at least until I got gated out. However, with Gunbreaker coming soon, I think that there will be a lot of new or newer tanks who may not be as comfortable with huge pulls.

I honestly never advocate anyone but the tank pulling, as they know what their own comfort level is and if they can/want to handle larger pulls. However, some also argue that if the tank is going too slow, they have the right to pull faster if everyone but the tank wants to go fast. I'm not talking about tanks who can go faster but flat out refuse even when the rest of the party wants to, but moreso the new tanks or those not yet comfortable. Is it ever okay for dps or healers to 'pull for the slow tank'?

[Tsubaki75]

The tank is the only person that should be pulling, if they aren't pulling enough the party should talk to them about it since they might be new or uncomfortable with it for some reason. If they just refuse to is it really that big of a deal to spend an extra 3 min in an instance rather than 5-10 min arguing and wiping over nonsense?

When I dps the only time i grab mobs is when a stray aggros the healer, i just grab them and bring them to the tank.

[Nightroad]

In the wise words of "You spank it , you tank it"

The tank pulls. That is the way it has always been with me .
You get one free pull , after that I will not heal you.

[Sandoria]

In the wise words of "You spank it , you tank it"

The tank pulls. That is the way it has always been with me .
You get one free pull , after that I will not heal you.

This^ This^ THIS^

[Campi]

"You spank it , you tank it"

The Words of bad Tanks :shrug:

Just because you're playing a tank doesn't mean that you're the most important person in the group, since everyone is important and equal.

^this

[Baxcel]

As a tank I agree with the motto "if you pull it you tank it" but I also add on that I will tank it once in done with my current pack.

The reason I go slow isn't because I can't handle it.. I go slow so my healer dosnt get stressed and so they can help with fighting instead of spamming healing

[Hash_Browns]

As a tank I agree with the motto "if you pull it you tank it" but I also add on that I will tank it once in done with my current pack.

The reason I go slow isn't because I can't handle it.. I go slow so my healer dosnt get stressed and so they can help with fighting instead of spamming healing

Healers don't get stressed when you pull large in level +50 content unless:
- They are bad at healing
- You are bad at tanking
- Either of you are new to the dungeon

Pull wall-to-wall is the general rule in dungeons that are high level because everyone has AOEs.

On the other hand, when a DPS takes the aggro of something and gets ripped to shreds, not pulling it off the DPS causes me to have to heal multiple sources when I could be DPSing.


Honestly, if a tank ended up not pulling mobs off of a DPS in late game dungeons, even if the DPS pulled it, I would probably give them a little nudge to take them before vote kicking them.

Do the job of your class, or get shown the door. If the DPS are pulling more mobs, it's because you are pulling very little, and making the dungeon take twice as long so you can watch netflix while tanking.

[Baxcel]

Healers don't get stressed when you pull large in level +50 content unless:
- They are bad at healing
- You are bad at tanking
- Either of you are new to the dungeon

Pull wall-to-wall is the general rule in dungeons that are high level because everyone has AOEs.

On the other hand, when a DPS takes the aggro of something and gets ripped to shreds, not pulling it off the DPS causes me to have to heal multiple sources when I could be DPSing.


Honestly, if a tank ended up not pulling mobs off of a DPS in late game dungeons, even if the DPS pulled it, I would probably give them a little nudge to take them before vote kicking them.

Do the job of your class, or get shown the door. If the DPS are pulling more mobs, it's because you are pulling very little, and making the dungeon take twice as long so you can watch netflix while tanking.

Sorry if I wasnt specific.. My healer is my IRL partner who is bipolar, has anexity, depression and PTSD. So yeah im going make sure he's the one that's comfortable and the dps will tank what they pull till I'm ready for the next group.

[Hash_Browns]

Sorry if I wasnt specific.. My healer is my IRL partner who is bipolar, has anexity, depression and PTSD. So yeah im going make sure he's the one that's comfortable and the dps will tank what they pull till I'm ready for the next group.

See this is more of a grey area that I really have no experience covering, I was talking about in general with Duty Finder groups.
If that's the way your IRL partner is comfortable playing, all the power to them. Either way stress is going to be caused.

I go into dungeon pugs as pld only for a reason. If I deem the healer, dps or both too weak for mass pulls, I only pull two groups at a time and can keep myself up with clemency. If dps pulls more however, I let him die, unless they aggro healer. If healer pulls more, Ill take it off after letting healer take a beating for a bit to watch him heal himself back to full a few times, so he learns his lesson.

Overall though, its player impatience or overconfidence which is the reason why if I feel like tanking random dungeons, I go as pally.

The problem here is that your healer is going to heal the DPS, and do their end of the job & ultimately pull aggro either way. Even if they don't, they now have to heal a squishier source as well as you.

[Drayce1]

See this is more of a grey area that I really have no experience covering, I was talking about in general with Duty Finder groups.
If that's the way your IRL partner is comfortable playing, all the power to them. Either way stress is going to be caused.



The problem here is that your healer is going to heal the DPS, and do their end of the job & ultimately pull aggro either way. Even if they don't, they now have to heal a squishier source as well as you.

Like I said. If dps pulls and aggro goes to healer, ill take the mobs immediately off, and usually use cover on the healer.

Tank dictates the pulls, it has been this way since the dawn of mmos concerning on the move content. Camp content, ala EQ and FFXi, it depends on what classes you had with you.