Healer boycott in 5.0

[Cyrocco]

How are we going to drive people away from the game of no one supports our ideas? This is the same kind of mentality people who delete negative YouTube comments have.

These are the healer forums. Specifically for discussing opinions and tips for healing. Right now it’s opinions. I’m sick of seeing comments trying to tell people to just shut and smile when things are without a doubt getting worse.

[Yuyuka3]

Alright this call for healers to boycott needs to stop. The people agreeing to this are wasting there time in a massive way.

1./ you have no idea, understanding, or respect for the power of a boycott like this.

2./ you will never get enough base support in this game to force your viewpoint as these forums make up a very small part of the community.

3./ your demands are based on a two month old test build, and your speculations are only based on a very miniscule grasp of new systems in place (e.g. new damage calculations, trial, dungeon, raid design.)

4./ the impact you think this will have on the game will not happen or even by some slim chance if it does happen others will switch to healer for those instaqueues or suffer trusts.

5./ these calls for boycotts, petitions for peoples jobs, calls for mass unsubs, are more detrimental then you realize and you have no respect for the consequences. What happens if a new player or someone interested in coming to this game for the first time decides to stop by these forums and check out community feedback? I know if i were one i would think twice before grabbing this game, and to make matters worse you are going from 0-200 without any hard facts about the final build. Do you see how asinine that is?

Your last point is actually helpful, since it would hurt SE's wallet, and as we all know, that's the only way to make corporations think about the shit they do.

[Vivian_Vex]

How are we going to drive people away from the game of no one supports our ideas? This is the same kind of mentality people who delete negative YouTube comments have.

These are the healer forums. Specifically for discussing opinions and tips for healing. Right now it’s opinions. I’m sick of seeing comments trying to tell people to just shut and smile when things are without a doubt getting worse.

No one is telling you to shut up and smile. People are telling you to not act like the world is ending without trying it. A very basic concept.

[guardin]

I really like AST right now. It's one of my favorite classes.

I won't be playing AST in ShB. It has none of the soul of the class I fell in love with. I'll be tempted to, just so that my anima weapon doesn't go to waste... but I don't know if SE will truly realize how pissed many of us are if drastic action isn't taken.

What kind of drastic action? KEEP YOUR HEALER OUT OF GROUP CONTENT IN 5.0. Run group content with something else. Eat the queues if you only have DPS, or perhaps try out GNB - tanking is easier than you think, GNB starts at lvl 60, and it even has a party healing ability!

I'll forgive WHM for breaking the picket, but SCH and especially AST have been massacred. If our jobs just vanish from the duty finder, and people start seeing "Adventurer in Need: Healer" more often than "AiN: Tank", it will have greater force than 100000 futile forum posts.

Another post about another healing that knows nothing about how balancing works. You havent even tried it yet. Most people are so happy with the changes that they are gonna try healing for a change. These post want attention but healers are in a really good spot. Please review and try to understand fun and balance before making post "the devs didnt give me what i wanted so that means it is broken."

[guardin]

Spoken like a true Blizzard employee! Go see how that mentality is working out for them.

In the business world, it's understood every angry customer who seeks out a way to complain represents many times that who just silently walk away.

Generally, this team has listened to the community, but for WHM specifically they just are taking a stand on principle or something...idk.

spoken like a TRUE angry elitest. The game doesnt revovle around you. The majority rules. and the majority are HAPPY. If they do what the minority wants (especially with healers) it will break the game beyond repair. Throwing a fit and insults around just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. SE does. In the business world they respect every customer and they want to satisfy as man as they can but that is impossible because someone is always gonna be unhappy and right now its the vocal minority that are loud and making a scene for no reason.

[guardin]

Your last point is actually helpful, since it would hurt SE's wallet, and as we all know, that's the only way to make corporations think about the shit they do.

15 angry people isn't going to hurt anyone's wallet when 95% of the playerbase is happy. Get over yourself and stop throwing fits

[Shalan]

15 angry people isn't going to hurt anyone's wallet when 95% of the playerbase is happy. Get over yourself and stop throwing fits

and the majority are HAPPY.

You keep saying this, but you've never given any actual evidence or indication of the majority being happy with the changes. Got a source on that 95%?
Unless your majority is anecdotal in which case it runs up against my anecdotal majority that don't like the changes lol

That said I do think calling for a boycott is a bit silly. The most effective boycotts are ones that happen naturally when people see/hear news or changes they don't like and make a decision, of which I'm hopeful they'll be in this case.

[Darkpaw]

No one is telling you to shut up and smile. People are telling you to not act like the world is ending without trying it. A very basic concept.

Exactly. Raising concern about design decisions in a calm rational manner and emotionally throwing out calls of homogenization, healers gutted, boycott healers, mass unsubs, and petitions for peoples jobs (people who have bent over backwards to fulfill as many of the community’s requests as humanly possible let alone doing more than nearly mmo ever.) are completely different. Voicing concern mosy would have no issue with. Kneejerk emotional reactions are ridiculous and dangerous on so many levels.

[Yuyuka3]

spoken like a TRUE angry elitest. The game doesnt revovle around you. The majority rules. and the majority are HAPPY. If they do what the minority wants (especially with healers) it will break the game beyond repair. Throwing a fit and insults around just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. SE does. In the business world they respect every customer and they want to satisfy as man as they can but that is impossible because someone is always gonna be unhappy and right now its the vocal minority that are loud and making a scene for no reason.

SE knows what they are doing... so well that WHM is the undisputed worst healer job despite people wanting change for 4 years now. Made tons of very well-thought out suggestions, etc.
Yet all we got, yet again, is more of the same garbage we had all along. What's the point of another Cure II? If they really thought that skill needed changing, they could have just changed the base skill. Yet what we got was a Cure II 2.0 that will see maybe slightly more use as normal Cure II, but not much, since it's still on the GCD and healers avoid GCD healing like the plague. We also still have no raid utility past what the other healers had for ages now when it comes to defensive utility, while still offering no offensive utility which, oh! is the main reason WHM got cast aside by many players to begin with! Together with the fact that they are the weakest in pDPS, too, a development I predict happening the exact same way in 5.0, after all I've seen of the devs in my 6 years playing that job now. But, hey. Be an ass toward people being concerned. I hope for you that your rl is considerably less sad than what you show here.

Also, mind showing us some proof about that happy majority you constantly talk about, please?

[Insertcoins]

I'm definitely not healing until significant changes have been made to both AST and SCH. Me and 3/5ths of my FC unsubbed today.

If they don't run the track back on this there will be a backlash, and no amount of "Wait and see" Squenix brown nosing is going to mitigate that.

Wait... so you flat out quit the game over changes you haven't played yet? You don't even know WHY said change was made do you? Well that's silly of you to do. How would you even know the change you want is even in place if you flat out threw out your game? Seems abit like over acting if you ask me.