Thread: Healer boycott in 5.0

Well forgive our pessimism but they haven't exactly proven themselves in the past to provide a steady constant stream of damage to justify constant healing cause remember, all healers have extremely healing tools and Whm has it overkill. They're giving more healing on top of more healing. Even in Ultimates (having cleared UCOB myself) healing has only been intensive in a few select situations(some of the Bahamut trios, add phase, Garuda cleanses and the Primal Roulette), a good majority of healing can be done through ogcd healing.

I'm willing to give it a chance but given the current track of the dev team, it hasn't exactly proven a good first impression.

Originally Posted by Sathona

lol boycotting. Minority is legit here and in reddit whatsoever.
You wont accomplish anything. And if you do that be my guest ill queue as a healer and get lvl 80 easily since it will be "in need"
cheers o/

And if some of you refuse to heal please dont queue with healers in dungeons/raids <3

No. If you want to be a 1-trick pony and play these terrible class designs, I'll happily que with a Ninja, Sam, or whatever and make you do the dirty work. Gladly. Have fun.

Originally Posted by Sathona

lol boycotting. Minority is legit here and in reddit whatsoever.
You wont accomplish anything. And if you do that be my guest ill queue as a healer and get lvl 80 easily since it will be "in need"
cheers o/

And if some of you refuse to heal please dont queue with healers in dungeons/raids <3

I second this.

I usually like to at least give something a chance before passing instant judgment on it.

See, Yoshi-P and team playtested it. We haven't.

You're going to talk like you know better than the team who went through a rigorous design phase, playtesting phase, etc?

You're going to talk like you know more about the subject than they do?

Really?

But go ahead, throw your tantrums, etc. I'll enjoy my faster Q times, and my commendations.

This is why I'm concerned. The devs don't seem to understand that just buffing outgoing damage and/or nerfing healer DPS toolkits is not the way to go - potencies and encounter design would have to be fundamentally changed if you want to create an organic, healthy way of pushing healers more towards healing than DPS. Scripted burst windows and insane HPS throughput are why healer gameplay is the way it is in this game, and taking away Cleric Stance, pruning healers down to two DPS buttons and putting a cap on mana isn't going to make healing magically more fun, it'll just make DPS less fun (as though it was that fun to begin with if you were an AST lol).

Which is a GOOD thing. It creates a bit of a buffer, to where you can do stuff other than healing, or if you've got slower reaction times, you won't end up causing wipes because you weren't healing with 0.5s margin of error like in WoW.

I've tried WoW healing and it is everything you're asking for, MOAR HEALING and .... it sucks. A lot. You have very little forgiveness, very little margin of error.

Trust me. It's better the way it is in FFXIV.

Originally Posted by Hustensaft

So what playtesting did 4.0 healers go through? The healer changelog up to 4.5 should tell you how little plan they have. We can also jump back into 3.0 and look at how long it took for AST to be useable...

*shrugs* The Devs have different goals/likes than we do.

The Devs thought 4.0 was fine when they first playtested it, but the players in their infinite GOTTA GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO mentality that is a disease upon Duty Finder content were all whiny and crap.

I'm getting the feeling that the Devs are not so impatient, and not speedrunners that absolutely must finish dungeons in 15 minutes or less type mentality. But they release these classes and the speedrunners complain because it doesn't work as well for speedrunning and the Devs have to adjust.

*shrug*

But then I'm of the opinion we should put obstacles after every single pull to stop this absurd speedrun crap.

Originally Posted by Noitems

Why not just wait for 5.0 to come out, try healing with the new changes, and then make a decision if you're going to continue doing it or not?

Because it's too much work for the easily triggered crybaby fanbase to you know, actually experience something first and make an informed decision.
Besides, we know they're all bluster anyways. They'll be back once their queue times suffer.

Originally Posted by DJMau

Because it's too much work for the easily triggered crybaby fanbase to you know, actually experience something first and make an informed decision.
Besides, we know they're all bluster anyways. They'll be back once their queue times suffer.

^^
This.

The more rational people are going "Eh, dunno if gusta but we'll see about this." and the whiny crybabies are going "WAAAAAH I QUIT WAAAAH WAAAAAAH WAAAAH ITS RUINED WAAAAH WAAAH"

They see a small part of the puzzle, they haven't seen any of the bosses' mechanics, the fights, the dungeon designs, how the tanks and healers' changes are going to mesh together, none of that stuff, and they're already passing judgment on a fraction of the picture without seeing the rest.