Thread: Healer boycott in 5.0

Originally Posted by Maeka

^^
This.

The more rational people are going "Eh, dunno if gusta but we'll see about this." and the whiny crybabies are going "WAAAAAH I QUIT WAAAAH WAAAAAAH WAAAAH ITS RUINED WAAAAH WAAAH"

They see a small part of the puzzle, they haven't seen any of the bosses' mechanics, the fights, the dungeon designs, how the tanks and healers' changes are going to mesh together, none of that stuff, and they're already passing judgment on a fraction of the picture without seeing the rest.

They had Heavensward and Stormblood to adjust how damage hits and nothing has come close to needing healers to have less things to do... which is what they got for Shadowbringers. Also given how hard it is to readjust things... at the very least they are never going to go backwards and adjust old content even if they adjust new content... which means people could get annoyed leveling healer up to get to where things are where they "should be"

Originally Posted by Wiccan026

They had Heavensward and Stormblood to adjust how damage hits and nothing has come close to needing healers to have less things to do... which is what they got for Shadowbringers. Also given how hard it is to readjust things... at the very least they are never going to go backwards and adjust old content even if they adjust new content... which means people could get annoyed leveling healer up to get to where things are where they "should be"

Here's a protip for you: What you want, isn't necessary what the devs want, and vice-versa.

The devs don't want healers to feel like they have to constantly mash their heal buttons non-stop. That creates too hectic of an environment, especially in Duty Finder content. They want 80%+ of the population to be able to comfortably pass Duty Finder stuff, so that everybody can see the story. They never intended Duty Finder to be aimed at the hardcore crowd whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Maeka

The devs don't want healers to feel like they have to constantly mash their heal buttons non-stop. That creates too hectic of an environment, especially in Duty Finder content. They want 80%+ of the population to be able to comfortably pass Duty Finder stuff, so that everybody can see the story. They never intended Duty Finder to be aimed at the hardcore crowd whatsoever.

So you meant Healer can be laid back, standing around look at the pretty surrounding in dungeon? Or all jobs should be able to casually press button at their own preferences in dungeons cause that would be fairer? Now i can see how some dungeon run can last till they run out of time

Originally Posted by DJMau

Because it's too much work for the easily triggered crybaby fanbase to you know, actually experience something first and make an informed decision.
Besides, we know they're all bluster anyways. They'll be back once their queue times suffer.

The population in MMO after MMO declines b/c people assume as much. Don't be so sure. When it stops being fun, we find something else to do with our time and money.

Originally Posted by Truen

The population in MMO after MMO declines b/c people assume as much. Don't be so sure. When it stops being fun, we find something else to do with our time and money.

..... and the vocal minority tends to be just that, a minority.

The people you see on the forums is less than 1% of the paying subscribers, and a good number of them are more than happy to play with the changes as-is, or are confident that tweaks will be made that things will get better.

Even if you took the entirety of the FFXIV Reddit users, it's still such a small slice of the game's actual population.

I'd say that the exit of some of the more vocal minorities could actually be healthy for the game, as these are some of the players who tend to nitpick and whine about the dumbest things.

Healed from 2.0 to 3.55 Tried tanking in 4.0 but still healed as well. I'm happy for most of the changes and indifferent to the rest, I'll happily still heal in 5.0.
Am I sad DNC isn't a healer and we didn't get one at all? Yes, am I happy with what we did get? Also yes.

Originally Posted by Maeka

..... and the vocal minority tends to be just that, a minority.

The people you see on the forums is less than 1% of the paying subscribers, and a good number of them are more than happy to play with the changes as-is, or are confident that tweaks will be made that things will get better.

Even if you took the entirety of the FFXIV Reddit users, it's still such a small slice of the game's actual population.

I'd say that the exit of some of the more vocal minorities could actually be healthy for the game, as these are some of the players who tend to nitpick and whine about the dumbest things.

Spoken like a true Blizzard employee! Go see how that mentality is working out for them.

In the business world, it's understood every angry customer who seeks out a way to complain represents many times that who just silently walk away.

Generally, this team has listened to the community, but for WHM specifically they just are taking a stand on principle or something...idk.

Originally Posted by Josco

Spoken like a true Blizzard employee! Go see how that mentality is working out for them.

In the business world, it's understood every angry customer who seeks out a way to complain represents many times that who just silently walk away.

Generally, this team has listened to the community, but for WHM specifically they just are taking a stand on principle or something...idk.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Josco

Spoken like a true Blizzard employee! Go see how that mentality is working out for them.

In the business world, it's understood every angry customer who seeks out a way to complain represents many times that who just silently walk away.

Generally, this team has listened to the community, but for WHM specifically they just are taking a stand on principle or something...idk.

By that logic they can neither do anything but also need to do everything because no matter what they do or don't do, there will always be someone whose "angry"
At the end of the day they must be doing something right because FFXIV is still growing with each expansion, personally I like the changes but if they're that bad they'll make adjustments in 5.1 like they normally do, but at the end of the day they can't please everyone and change is always going to upset someone, just as doing nothing would, they picked a path and some like myself like it, and by using your own logic as I'm here voicing that, there must be many silently agreeing with me.
But who knows, perhaps you're right, theses changes are awful, the sky is falling and this will ruin the game, or perhaps people will just adapt and move on, and given how the game just keeps growing I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the sky to fall.