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  1. #5491
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Showing my support for male Viera, tall and strong.
    When Yoshida says slim I believe that's lost in translation, it could have a double meaning in japanese, slim could be synonymous with tall in Japanese when describing someone. I implore the dev team to make them how they designed them, tall and strong.



    1. male Au ra: tall and Lizard figure (weird waste/hips)
    2. male Elezen: Tall and skinny

    Male Viea needs to either fit in-between them or be stronger/buffer than male Au ra, with a human figure.
    By the way we haven't had a discussion about what kind of men male Viera are. It seems one side wants them to be dainty/high class like Elezen while another side wants them to be actual jungle warriors. They fit the jungle warrior category better if they're tall and strong; not delicate, bishounen, boy band models.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 05-30-2019 at 12:55 PM.

  2. #5492
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Showing my support for male Viera, tall and strong.
    When Yoshida says slim I believe that's lost in translation, it could have a double meaning in japanese, slim could be synonymous with tall in Japanese when describing someone. I implore the dev team to make them how they designed them, tall and strong.



    1. male Au ra: tall and Lizard figure (weird waste/hips)
    2. male Elezen: Tall and skinny

    Male Viea needs to either fit in-between them or be stronger/buffer than male Au ra, with a human figure.
    By the way we haven't had a discussion about what kind of men male Viera are. It seems one side wants them to be dainty/high class like Elezen while another side wants them to be actual jungle warriors. They fit the jungle warrior category better if they're tall and strong; not delicate, bishounen, boy band models.
    What I personally want is something between miqote and au ra, anything bigger than that like highlander I will hate them. I still want them to be tall and slim but also have muscle, just like miqote and au ra. So anything between those two I’m okay with. For aesthetic and customization, I want there to be at least an option to have a fur patch on their chest, they have concept art they created for how big that patch should be. I want long ears so hopefully we can get the same length as females. I want a pretty face, if it’s a bit beast like at least make him attractive/hot. I want some hair options to be majestic and long. I do want heels for at least some outfits. I want their starter gear to look just as revealing. I can’t think of anything right now but we all will definitely slowly start to change our minds on what we want coming ShB. We will be learning more about male viera in depth, so that could include, life style, appearances, whatever else
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  3. #5493
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    What I personally want is something between miqote and au ra, anything bigger than that like highlander I will hate them. I still want them to be tall and slim but also have muscle, just like miqote and au ra. So anything between those two I’m okay with. For aesthetic and customization, I want there to be at least an option to have a fur patch on their chest, they have concept art they created for how big that patch should be. I want long ears so hopefully we can get the same length as females. I want a pretty face, if it’s a bit beast like at least make him attractive/hot. I want some hair options to be majestic and long. I do want heels for at least some outfits. I want their starter gear to look just as revealing. I can’t think of anything right now but we all will definitely slowly start to change our minds on what we want coming ShB. We will be learning more about male viera in depth, so that could include, life style, appearances, whatever else
    Seems to me you're describing female Viera when you say things like "I want a pretty face, if it’s a bit beast like at least make him attractive/hot. I want some hair options to be majestic and long. I do want heels for at least some outfits."
    Here friend, download the benchmark, it lets you make exactly what you described https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/bench...n=na_benchmark

    Female Viera are taller or almost as tall as male Highlander, the males will obviously be taller than them. The LAST thing we need is for male Viera to be pushed back to 6.0 and added with gender demorphism like they did with Au ra.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 05-30-2019 at 01:36 PM.

  4. #5494
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Seems to me you're describing female Viera when you say things like "I want a pretty face, if it’s a bit beast like at least make him attractive/hot. I want some hair options to be majestic and long. I do want heels for at least some outfits."
    Here friend, download the benchmark, it lets you make exactly what you described https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/bench...n=na_benchmark

    Female Viera are taller or almost as tall as male Highlander, the males will obviously be taller than them. The LAST thing we need is for male Viera to be pushed back to 6.0 and added with gender demorphism like they did with Au ra.
    But that's exactly what most of them want. They want what are essentially the females with no breasts. I just hope if/when we get them, they're handsome and rugged; like killer guardians of the forest should be.
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  5. #5495
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    I just hope if/when we get them, they're handsome and rugged; like killer guardians of the forest should be.
    That is my hope, too! There's quite a lot of support for them to be masculine, luckily!

    As I've said in the past, they should have at least one base face that is feminine/androgynous for those who like that kind of thing but the entire model should not be such.
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  6. #5496
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    But that's exactly what most of them want. They want what are essentially the females with no breasts. I just hope if/when we get them, they're handsome and rugged; like killer guardians of the forest should be.
    Thank you! I've been following this thread for a while and it feels highjacked.
    Look, the devs already have a concept, instead of deviating from that we should respect their vision



    Which is not bishounen men in high heels

    PS. Notice how they have strong jaws and strong features, a staple to Viera. Not small baby-face jaws like male Miqo'te.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 05-30-2019 at 02:02 PM.

  7. #5497
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    When Yoshida says slim I believe that's lost in translation, it could have a double meaning in japanese, slim could be synonymous with tall in Japanese when describing someone. I implore the dev team to make them how they designed them, tall and strong.
    Tell me which phrase was "lost in translation" and I can easily disprove your claim. Hint: I'm fluent in Japanese.
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  8. #5498
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That is my hope, too! There's quite a lot of support for them to be masculine, luckily!

    As I've said in the past, they should have at least one base face that is feminine/androgynous for those who like that kind of thing but the entire model should not be such.
    I mean lets not lie and say it wasn't hugely a part of this thread that made Yoshi actually come out and stomp his foot down on peoples desire to have a child like Viera. There were certainly, for a while, a loud vocal group who wanted to be weird with Viera and they left such a bad taste in the mouths of so many people that many decided they didn't want male Viera at all because of it.

    Now because that was snuffed out, there's a group who are begging for what are basically... well, female models. And if they want them to be so feminine, I don't understand why they don't just make a female character. At least that group is starting to get snuffed out too by others who still want the viera to not be a circus show.
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  9. #5499
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    They can be both guys
    Miqote can look fierce but also have options to look cute
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    Its in the eye brows
    They can go from
    :3 to >:3
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