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  1. #5471
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    That last bit isn't too encouraging, in regards to their next MMO.

    Still, the comments on XIV do make me a bit more optimistic about the prospects of potential graphics/character customisation enhancements, as it seems the next MMO will differ to the point where it isn't a direct competitor given what he's said.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 05-30-2019 at 04:39 AM.

  2. #5472
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    (...) 2-The fact that the heads are so different means that not only do they have limited customization (female viera's customization is ok, could certainly use more diverse hairstyles, but male hrotgar customization is perhaps the worst customization we have in the game, based on not being able to even choose something as basic as hair) and that they will not be able to wear various types of headgear, which will specially affect new players that might think: Why can a female miqote wear a hood but my female viera can't?!
    At a first moment, when I thought about the headgear, I believed they had problems with making the hoods be wearable with the animations of viera's ears. Now, as I can saw on benchmark, the ears don't even do animations, they are more statick than the bunny ears that we can buy at GS.
    I don't have much knowledge on these things, but (correct me if I'm wrong) could not they just make a "cut" on the hoods, and pass the ears throught it? Plate armours ok, they will need to make a "mettalic ears", but cloth... Well, I don't know how hard is to do these things.

    I really hope they add some details on these races (Hrothgar doesn't have ears animations too). It's a tiny detail, but when I see two big bunny ears without make one movement in the animations, it's weird for me

    Perhaps there will be animations, but not on the benchmark, and I'm crying for nothing too haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

  3. #5473
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    That last bit isn't too encouraging, in regards to their next MMO.

    Still, the comments on XIV do make me a bit more optimistic about the prospects of potential graphics/character customisation enhancements, as it seems the next MMO will differ to the point where it isn't a direct competitor given what he's said.
    Yeah I'll just have to disagree with Yoshida on that, while I agree some early streamlining on XIV could be used. I don't think games like fortnite and battle royale is a good example for a story driven MMO to follow, if they'd even make it story driven. I as a consumer just don't find them entertaining especially with a lot of their core sources of revenue(loot boxes) being on the verge of being banned in the USA.

    But yes it seems they are aware that they can still perfect the formula, I'm really hoping this leads into them addressing technical and graphical issues and not just pruning abilities/streamlining jobs, because for me there's only so much that can be streamlined when it comes to job aspects before you go past the point of good balance.

    Nevertheless I'm looking forward to seeing how this expansion pans out in terms of fixing graphical and technical issues.
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  4. #5474
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    There's no questions because they've made their point pretty clear I think, it was pretty much as was rationally expected. Not many interviews after initial response and most likely a lot of fan questions, the issue really is whether the dev team has the desire to fix issues they seem to be having with gear. I think there's a good chance of this happening SOMEWHERE down the line if their vision of "Perfecting" what they already have includes updating systems, of course it could be the counter that fixing the issue with gear might just be out of the realm of what they can do with a 2nd generation MMO and might have to wait for a 3rd generation MMO instead.

    That being said I think the chance of them releasing in 5.x is really really generous, that would imply they've solved this issue by the time the expansion has launched and it's cut down on race development time by something of upwards to 9 or 10 months. I think 6.0 is more reasonable if they fix this issue mid 5.x like 5.3/5.2 and it can cut down on 6 months of development because of this.

    Yeah, I had read somewhere about that too, that's why I got really sad when they did not announce the male...
    Also, had read that their Project for XIV was sure til 7.0
    And that make my heart go thin, as it is a wink to reach there. I'm starting to think that if we get male viera, it will be on the next game... which I do hope is not MOBA or a Battle Royale.
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  5. #5475
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    That last bit isn't too encouraging, in regards to their next MMO.

    Still, the comments on XIV do make me a bit more optimistic about the prospects of potential graphics/character customisation enhancements, as it seems the next MMO will differ to the point where it isn't a direct competitor given what he's said.
    I hope their next MMO is just as good as this one, and it's set on Ivalice, but both of this things are extremely unlikely lol

    Also Brightmore, what makes you think that they wont do it in this game? I think it would make more sense than for the next one

    Hit post limit. Brightmore I'd like if you could tell me what does any of the info given there have to do with genderlocks in general? I actually think it's either neutral or slitghly possitive, since if the game isn't updated as frequently at some point, that means we are likely to get male viera and female hrotgar in case we haven't already gotten them before, sicne all of the current issues would most likely not be there

    My last edit. Oh ok Brightmore. I understood it now
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  6. #5476
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    If those info are true, it's a close window to invest. It would make more sense if applied in the new game. That's a "IF", I work with the two with hopes of getting them still here. :P
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  7. #5477
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    There's no questions because they've made their point pretty clear I think, it was pretty much as was rationally expected. Not many interviews after initial response and most likely a lot of fan questions, the issue really is whether the dev team has the desire to fix issues they seem to be having with gear. I think there's a good chance of this happening SOMEWHERE down the line if their vision of "Perfecting" what they already have includes updating systems, of course it could be the counter that fixing the issue with gear might just be out of the realm of what they can do with a 2nd generation MMO and might have to wait for a 3rd generation MMO instead.

    That being said I think the chance of them releasing in 5.x is really really generous, that would imply they've solved this issue by the time the expansion has launched and it's cut down on race development time by something of upwards to 9 or 10 months. I think 6.0 is more reasonable if they fix this issue mid 5.x like 5.3/5.2 and it can cut down on 6 months of development because of this.

    That sounds terrible. So, the next MMO is gonna be some casual trash (literally) that you can hop in and hop out, because apparently players nowadays don't have the attention span to play something like FFXIV or WoW? This is laughable, and sad, and scary at the same time.

    Actually, I think Yoshida is flat out WRONG here. I think the reason there is player drop off is because there hasn't been a compelling game in this format for a very long time. I do NOT think players are to blame here. I find it extremely annoying that developers continue to blame the players for their own mistakes when it comes to their games. Look at WoW classic, and look at the massive popularity it is creating. I can't believe the genre I love is going to be ruined, because publishers want to cash in on trash like fortnite or garbage MOBAs.
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  8. #5478
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    Yeah, it will be the day that I will start to see the sunlight.
    Same way gamers hop from game to game, most of those don't have this feeling of immersion or catch to hold a base for years like past gen.

    @zeylos I don't think that they have any relation with the genderlock. What I think is that they came with Hroth just to grab WoW refugees and fill a niche in game that seeks a race more brute-ish, that's why we get the half genders, they gambled that the ones that like the slim/beauty would suffice with just female, while grabbin' the others with Hroth.
    I think they will implemente the missing genders, they are caring for their base. It's just a rushed move that fired a bit back.
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  9. #5479
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    That sounds terrible. So, the next MMO is gonna be some casual trash (literally) that you can hop in and hop out, because apparently players nowadays don't have the attention span to play something like FFXIV or WoW? This is laughable, and sad, and scary at the same time.

    Actually, I think Yoshida is flat out WRONG here. I think the reason there is player drop off is because there hasn't been a compelling game in this format for a very long time. I do NOT think players are to blame here. I find it extremely annoying that developers continue to blame the players for their own mistakes when it comes to their games. Look at WoW classic, and look at the massive popularity it is creating. I can't believe the genre I love is going to be ruined, because publishers want to cash in on trash like fortnite are garbage MOBAs.
    What, the idea of a bunch of cat boys and girls running around trying to fire blast each other off stages for all of the games life span isn't riveting and exciting to you? Churro, I thought we were more alike than that.
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  10. #5480
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightmore View Post
    Yeah, it will be the day that I will start to see the sunlight.
    Same way gamers hop from game to game, most of those don't have this feeling of immersion or catch to hold a base for years like past gen.
    Ironically, when it comes to battle royale garbage, I think most of the people playing it don't even like the games they are playing! They are playing it because their favorite juvenile streamer is playing it, and you can tell by the mass drop offs that happen when they switch games. Apex Legends, for that example, is completely dead now, a fairly compelling, and polished game within it's own genre. It's a popularity contest; a fad. Nothing like what evoked players in the early days of WoW, and I didn't even play WoW back then.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    What, the idea of a bunch of cat boys and girls running around trying to fire blast each other off stages for all of the games life span isn't riveting and exciting to you? Churro, I thought we were more alike than that.
    I can't wait to bring my low IQ to something like that, that is truly worthy of my time.

    Looks like streamlining and "accessibility" is going to be the name of the day, just look how great that has been for WoW retail! I am actually fuming right now.
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