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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Everyone that has enough gil should be able to buy a house, period. Anything less than that is unacceptable.
    Exactly, and that is why prices need to be raised due to inflation, this awful camping system needs to go away, loopholes allowing people to own multiple houses need to be closed, and any players grandfathered into multiple plots need to have those plots forcibly refunded and returned to circulation.

    Because of they don't do all of those things, we'll continue to be in this same spot again and again.
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    For now, I highly recommend everyone who is playing on a NA world and wants a house to wait until June 6th. Since auto-demolition was suspended between end of October and the release of 4.57 on April 23rd, there will be many houses getting demolished on that date that had been owned by players who quit playing since the end of October and never returned to the game.

    You will still need to wait on the purchase cooldown timer to expire but with luck most worlds will have more than enough becoming available that those who are looking should be able to get some house (though not necessarily the one they want).

    I do agree that SE needs to do something to address the lack of houses to meet player demand but I think it's highly unlikely they'll have anything to announce until after Shadowbringers has launched. Shirogane was added in 4.1 so I suspect any expansion of the housing system won't happen until 5.1. In the meantime, apartments are available on every world and they are a smaller form of housing to enjoy until you're able to buy a house if you don't already have one.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Exactly, and that is why prices need to be raised due to inflation, this awful camping system needs to go away, loopholes allowing people to own multiple houses need to be closed, and any players grandfathered into multiple plots need to have those plots forcibly refunded and returned to circulation.

    Because of they don't do all of those things, we'll continue to be in this same spot again and again.
    Well do have one Private plot for this character and other private plot for my other main in different servers and my husband has the FC house which we will have two more joining into the FC.

    In total we own 3 houses, 1 in one different server that has plenty for sale and the other 2 in the same server for different characters.

    No to acquire these house we didn't cheat we got lucky, the private for this character was camped for 12 hours for three different players at least when I reloged the morning after there was one of them only but afk and the plot was still available do did try my luck and dam was lucky.

    On that week that I acquired my character private small plot we were both flu sick I had for my 1st time 39 C flu with hallucinations and we have way to prove you, so I couldn't even stand on computer for -that- long or to keep up with macros even, which we don't use because of the obvious apart on my IT knowledge be 0.

    So yeah in both FC and Private house we were just dam lucky.
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    Last edited by AnnaRosa; 05-28-2019 at 04:19 PM.

  4. #34
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    You have to cheat or get extremely lucky to get a house. You know it's bad when people are openly talking about botting on the official housing forums.

    I'm just going to wait to see what they do with ShB and housing.

    Also that person with the entire ward of houses has some sort of complex going on. Cool you enjoy the game but coming from someone who plays this too much maybe it's time to take a break / step outside?
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    I dream of the day SE introduces proper instancing housing. For the type of game that XIV is, it's a bit weird to me that they don't have housing for all characters. By all means, keep the purchase price if they need the gil-sink, but make it available to anyone that wants to have a go at it.

    Not holding my breath on that one though. X:
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 05-28-2019 at 04:17 PM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaRosa View Post
    Well do have one Private plot for this character and other private plot for my other main in different servers and my husband has the FC house which we will have two more joining into the FC.

    In total we own 3 houses, 1 in one different server that has plenty for sale and the other 2 in the same server for different characters.

    No to acquire these house we didn't cheat we got lucky, the private for this character was camped for 12 hours for three different players at least when I reloged the morning after there was one of them only but afk and the plot was still available do did try my luck and dam was lucky.

    On that week that I acquired my character private small plot we were both flu sick I had my 1st 39 C flu with hallucinations and we have way to prove you, so I couldn't even stand on computer for -that- long.
    Unfortunately, since a player can only be logged in to one character at a time the account really should be limited to one house out of distributing a limited resource fairly.

    Waiting 12 hours to pick up a house doesn't justify anything, could probably find twice as many people that have waited 20+ hours and haven't gotten their first house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    It's bad design to lock players out of content simply because they weren't lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time.

    This privilege argument is little other than thinly veiled elitism. Reserve the elitism for moments when you're skilled at the game in content such as savage. There is no skill in buying a house. Most of it is luck.
    That's exactly why I used quotation marks - it doesn't mean I agree to it, but the very quests to unlock the housing districts states it's reserved for the most wealthy adventurers, so it's pretty clear housing wasn't made with the intention of everyone getting a house and players to compete for plots. Granted, they likely didn't foresee all the BS and loopholes players would do to get a spot either, but even if that policy has changed after the years it's not as easy as simply adding more wards, unless they add A LOT of them.
    Even If/when they open Ishgard, I expect all house plots will be taken within a week and there will still be people without one, taking us back to square one.
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    Last edited by Allegor; 05-28-2019 at 04:28 PM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Unfortunately, since a player can only be logged in to one character at a time the account really should be limited to one house out of distributing a limited resource fairly.

    Waiting 12 hours to pick up a house doesn't justify anything, could probably find twice as many people that have waited 20+ hours and haven't gotten their first house.
    Well that mostly happens in NA DC because if you would look into Chaos DC nowadays is so easy to acquire one small plot you can even buy many for 1.4mil so you can see for how long these plots have been available, in Goblet, Mist, Lavender for Louisouix and Omega.

    Have been doing the house census for three months already and still you have plenty plots available, I'll stream the amount of plots available in Louisouix and Omega later so you can see check by yourself.

    But I agree with you one house per account and per server if the player numbers increase dramatically after this expansion which probably will.

    Well feel like will use both to distribute the time equally between both my mains, one will keep the Miqo-te the other wanted to try Viera, so for the majority the houses end up to be useful for their mains in different servers.
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    Last edited by AnnaRosa; 05-28-2019 at 04:44 PM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    For now, I highly recommend everyone who is playing on a NA world and wants a house to wait until June 6th. Since auto-demolition was suspended between end of October and the release of 4.57 on April 23rd, there will be many houses getting demolished on that date that had been owned by players who quit playing since the end of October and never returned to the game.

    You will still need to wait on the purchase cooldown timer to expire but with luck most worlds will have more than enough becoming available that those who are looking should be able to get some house (though not necessarily the one they want).

    I do agree that SE needs to do something to address the lack of houses to meet player demand but I think it's highly unlikely they'll have anything to announce until after Shadowbringers has launched. Shirogane was added in 4.1 so I suspect any expansion of the housing system won't happen until 5.1. In the meantime, apartments are available on every world and they are a smaller form of housing to enjoy until you're able to buy a house if you don't already have one.
    I agree about auto demo and hopefully we will see some lots open up but honestly apartments blow in this game. Is it a way to get a smaller form of housing? Yes, however, it is nothing like normal housing. Limited to growing 2 plants. Not even half of what a small house can do. Maybe if they had a garden of some sort for apartment owners it would be a different story. Even a way to expand on said apartment for a cost. FFXI has better instant housing then this adn its no cost to the player.

    Simply put they dropped the ball with housing.

    IMO Should be one house per DC per account. If they want to pay for more accounts then by all means go at it. AN FC should have no more than one house designated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    That's exactly why I used quotation marks - it doesn't mean I agree to it, but the very quests to unlock the housing districts states it's reserved for the most wealthy adventurers, so it's pretty clear housing wasn't made with the intention of everyone getting a house and players to compete for plots. Granted, they likely didn't foresee all the BS and loopholes players would do to get a spot either, but even if that policy has changed after the years it's not as easy as simply adding more wards, unless they add A LOT of them.
    Even If/when they open Ishgard, I expect all house plots will be taken within a week and there will still be people without one, taking us back to square one.
    There aren't many ways to defend the housing system. Putting in a limited amount of slots for accessing content is never a good thing. Especially when accessing said content doesn't even require skill. Why? Because the more popular the game gets, the more players feel they're being punished simply for starting the game after other people did.

    Whatever SE's intentions were, they clearly didn't think about the long-term effects of the housing system.
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