Please fix summoner Physick

[Archwizard]

The way I see it, even though SMN has Physick as a holdover from ACN, Arcanist isn't a healer either; they could just as easily have made Physick exclusive to SCH or had it replaced with another skill for SMN.

So why does ACN have Physick? My guess is for self-sustain, the ability to survive and reduce downtime in the overworld or when soloing, much like why all casters have Drain.

Now, I agree that Vercure is meant to be a large part of RDM utility, especially as SMN has a number of group buffs to improve damage. So, allow me to offer a compromise:

• SMN gains a trait that either replaces Physick or allows it to scale with INT, but limits its use to the summoner or their pet (or weakens it on other targets, ie reverse Clemency).
• Vercure gains a trait that either allows it to do splash-healing (a la Cure III) or buffs the target to increase their healing received by a percentage.
• Drain has its healing buffed, is made exclusive to BLM and replaced with a new role action.

That way RDM keeps its utility, Physick isn't completely worthless on the bar, and everyone gets a sustain tool.

[Jandor]

The way I see it, even though SMN has Physick as a holdover from ACN, Arcanist isn't a healer either; they could just as easily have made Physick exclusive to SCH or had it replaced with another skill for SMN.

Technically Arcanist isn't a healer, but compare it's level 30 pre-job kit with Conjurer and it does look very much like a healer.
You could literally just change the role (and therefore role actions) and it'd be a perfectly serviceable healing class, even with no other changes.

Anyway, that aside, physick should work just for the self-sustain aspect. Titan-egi has long since become useless and even when he had his uses he couldn't do anything about incoming raid-wide damage.

If people are really that against SMN having a working basic heal spell it could be 'upgraded' into Physick II. Slightly higher potency and cost but can only be cast on self.

SMN gains a trait that either replaces Physick or allows it to scale with INT, but limits its use to the summoner or their pet (or weakens it on other targets, ie reverse Clemency).

Just for the record, physick doesn't need a trait to scale with INT. All other shared SCH/SMN actions scale with the correct stat, no traiting required.

[Archwizard]

Technically Arcanist isn't a healer, but compare it's level 30 pre-job kit with Conjurer and it does look very much like a healer.
You could literally just change the role (and therefore role actions) and it'd be a perfectly serviceable healing class, even with no other changes.

Literally the only healing-related actions available to Arcanist are Physick and Resurrection. No AoE healing, no regen/barriers, no heal-enhancing traits. Rouse affects only damage until you become a SCH.

Though I do find it funny that people are out here talking about removing Physick and debranching the job, and not voicing their opinions on what to do about Resurrection, which affects way more of the balance than Physick.

Now taking bets on how many want SMN to still be able to rez, just not do healer's work.

Just for the record, physick doesn't need a trait to scale with INT. All other shared SCH/SMN actions scale with the correct stat, no traiting required.

The last time I used Physick, my fully-kitted level 65 SMN healed for just over 500 on a health pool of over 22k.
Physick has a higher potency than Vercure, which can restore nearly half of my capped RDM's health per cast.

Tell me again that it's scaling off the proper stat, because I guarantee that's not INT.

[Crushnight]

Change physick on smn to an ogcd heal potency/cd like second wind.

Smn is the only job that cannot heal/defend itself should things get dicey, blm while doesn't have a heal can manaward which blows smn physick out the water and think that needs to change somehow.

[Kabooa]

Literally the only healing-related actions available to Arcanist are Physick and Resurrection. No AoE healing, no regen/barriers, no heal-enhancing traits. Rouse affects only damage until you become a SCH.

Lets take a look at Conjurer.

Before level 30 they get Cure, Medica and Raise.

Given that a role shift of Arcanist would probably put a heal on the carbuncles, I don't think Arcanist is ill equipped to heal those demanding low level dungeons.

[Archwizard]

Lets take a look at Conjurer.

Before level 30 they get Cure, Medica and Raise.

Given that a role shift of Arcanist would probably put a heal on the carbuncles, I don't think Arcanist is ill equipped to heal those demanding low level dungeons.

Alright, let's compare the two.

Before 30, CNJ's only attacks are Stone and Aero. EVERYTHING else in their kit is devoted to healing, crowd control and support.

ACN meanwhile gets a filler, two DoTs and a spreader, an oGCD attack and a pet.

So, you're saying that one heal and an "oops" button is all it takes to qualify as a healer for 30 levels? Bearing in mind that is all RDM has at 70, by that logic, CNJ could be a DPS since it has the barest bones of a damage rotation.

[Kabooa]

Alright, let's compare the two.

Before 30, CNJ's only attacks are Stone and Aero. EVERYTHING else in their kit is devoted to healing, crowd control and support.

ACN meanwhile gets a filler, two DoTs and a spreader, an oGCD attack and a pet.

So, you're saying that one heal and an "oops" button is all it takes to qualify as a healer for 30 levels? Bearing in mind that is all RDM has at 70, by that logic, CNJ could be a DPS since it has the barest bones of a damage rotation.

Uh, yeah? Have you ever healed the early levels? An arcanist right now could do it, let alone one with a pet heal were it a Healer role instead.

[Archwizard]

Uh, yeah? Have you ever healed the early levels? An arcanist right now could do it, let alone one with a pet heal were it a Healer role instead.

That I have, and while I admit that the Fairy itself has proven more than sufficient for content up to 25, it's worth pointing out that much as the current Carbuncles are downgrades to the SMN Egis, post-healer ACN pets would probably end up as nerfed Fairies, and with the separation there would be no need to maintain their potency while downsynched -- it'd be little different in effect from getting a potency trait at 30, which sounds exactly like what they would do.

Admittedly we have no idea how a separation of the two jobs would be handled, but since they share so many abilities and ACN is presently DPS-oriented, we can practically guarantee that'll end up with more being taken out of SCH's side than SMN's, and I should expect we may even see the job reworked from the ground up.

[Jandor]

Literally the only healing-related actions available to Arcanist are Physick and Resurrection.

With a role change it'd have a heal, a raise, esuna & protect. That's fine for pre-30.

The last time I used Physick, my fully-kitted level 65 SMN healed for just over 500 on a health pool of over 22k.
Physick has a higher potency than Vercure, which can restore nearly half of my capped RDM's health per cast.

Tell me again that it's scaling off the proper stat, because I guarantee that's not INT.

I said all other shared actions scale with the correct stat, and that they do it without a trait.
Scholar and Summoner also share energy drain for example, and it scales correctly for both, and it does it without either job having a stat altering trait.

Your proposed trait was essentially just 'Physick scales exactly like it is supposed to but now can't be cast on others'. Sure, it'd be nice if physick worked right, but it'd mean SMN goes from being the only job with a skill that doesn't scale properly to the only job with a trait that's an outright downgrade.