New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[Penthea]

Just realised there is so much drama in this thread for something every player only ever needs to do once.

You can do everything on the same character in FFXIV. If you want to start a new class, you don't have to do the msq again...because you have already done it.

Some people need to get over themselves. And if they can't there's the skip potion or other games.

[Physic]

Just realised there is so much drama in this thread for something every player only ever needs to do once.

You can do everything on the same character in FFXIV. If you want to start a new class, you don't have to do the msq again...because you have already done it.

Some people need to get over themselves. And if they can't there's the skip potion or other games.

yeaaa thats kind of the point, its just one part of why people play the game, so why lose prospective buyers by frontloading something they dont like, when its not actually inficative of how they will spend most of their time in game.


nobody has actually described how the game would suffer if people had an option to skip msq. The only argument is a cost/benefit analysis, and they can already unlock all story content(story skip) and they will soon have a means of revisiting story (new gsme+)

so the cost is minimal. The benefit is more players sticking with the game longer.

Most of the justification is that players should not be allowed into content without knowing the story, because it ruins it for them, when its already the case that many people skip the story via story skip potions, and manually skipping text/cutscenes. So that ship has sailed.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

yeaaa thats kind of the point, its just one part of why people play the game, so why lose prospective buyers by frontloading something they dont like, when its not actually inficative of how they will spend most of their time in game.


nobody has actually described how the game would suffer if people had an option to skip msq. The only argument is a cost/benefit analysis, and they can already unlock all story content(story skip) and they will soon have a means of revisiting story (new gsme+)

so the cost is minimal. The benefit is more players sticking with the game longer.

Most of the justification is that players should not be allowed into content without knowing the story, because it ruins it for them, when its already the case that many people skip the story via story skip potions, and manually skipping text/cutscenes. So that ship has sailed.

But they do currently have the option to skip.

[Physic]

But they do currently have the option to skip.

What we're saying that's most of what needs to be done and it has been done via jump potions if people want to propose a jump potion that skips relevant MSQ as well they can do that. Perhaps one thing that most of us are agreeing that could be done that and streamlining some of the ARR quests.

What most of us are highly opposed to is what people are proposing by instead of having jump positions is making the MSQ totally optional by disconnecting the MSQ from dungeons and trials and simply having level requirements like WOW does. I can't speak for anyone else but that would actually cause me to consider quitting this game if that change was made. One of the main reasons I love and keep playing is because of how the story is connected to everything, if that got changed I would seriously consider quitting the game. If people want the skip the story and play that's fine, its also fine if you want to propose free jump potions, but disconnecting the story from everything? That would cause people to leave.

make an npc who gives newbs a free story skip book, till the previous expansion, and when new game + comes, they will have solved this issue.

i think that would satisfy most people.

i would just add that i hope new game plus doesnt just start at the beginning, but can at least start at post expansion, and expansion story steps.

[SerLuke]

Most of the justification is that players should not be allowed into content without knowing the story, because it ruins it for them, when its already the case that many people skip the story via story skip potions, and manually skipping text/cutscenes. So that ship has sailed.

What we're saying that's most of what needs to be done and it has been done via jump potions if people want to propose a jump potion that skips relevant MSQ as well they can do that. Perhaps one thing that most of us are agreeing that could be done that and streamlining some of the ARR quests.

What most of us are highly opposed to is what people are proposing by instead of having jump positions is making the MSQ totally optional by disconnecting the MSQ from dungeons and trials and simply having level requirements like WOW does. I can't speak for anyone else but that would actually cause me to consider quitting this game if that change was made. One of the main reasons I love and keep playing is because of how the story is connected to everything, if that got changed I would seriously consider quitting the game. If people want the skip the story and play that's fine, its also fine if you want to propose free jump potions, but disconnecting the story from everything? That would cause people to leave.