New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[LyraKuroneko]

Yeah so pay another $50 on a game you're not sure you want to invest in yet because your new. . . lol. Also I mentioned there are quite a few other issues with a skip potion.

You guys are quite greedy.

Let's cut the devs work for free \o/

[Shougun]

You guys are quite greedy.

Let's cut the devs work for free \o/

You mean like WoW does a baseline to their expansions now... because they're so generous? Also I don't need the potions since I'm already capped on both, but thanks for calling me names.

(I don't even want the potions as baseline because I don't think they do a good enough job rooting players into the game, I'd prefer another solution).

[LyraKuroneko]

You mean like WoW does a baseline to their expansions now... because they're so generous? Also I don't need the potions since I'm already capped on both, but thanks for calling me names.

You're comparing a 15yo american mmo to a 6yo (since v1 doesn't count) japanese mmo.

Calling you names because I said greedy? really?

And again, since when this game need to be WoW2? Let this game be what it is...


Edit to answer you below :

Yeah, remember this is a numbered FF game and not WoW?

[Shougun]

You're comparing a 15yo american mmo to a 6yo (since v1 doesn't count) japanese mmo.

Calling you names because I said greedy? really?

Calling someone greedy is calling them something insulting, so yes really. It's like if I called you intellectually dishonest (that's insulting, imo at least).

WoW may be older but FFXIV has a lot more story gate content to get through, they may as well be the same age lol (that huge amount of story is a good thing to many people, I'm not claiming that's bad for everyone but it can be an issue).

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Yeah so pay another $50 on a game you're not sure you want to invest in yet because your new. . . lol. Also I mentioned there are quite a few other issues with a skip potion.

Who goes into the game laser-focusing on the endgame without doing research about it first?

You mean like WoW does a baseline to their expansions now... because they're so generous? Also I don't need the potions since I'm already capped on both, but thanks for calling me names.

(I don't even want the potions as baseline because I don't think they do a good enough job rooting players into the game, I'd prefer another solution).

Perhaps because WoW has a much higher profit and also has other ways to earn it (like the sub tokens)? What they're losing in sub time to get to level cap, they're earning it through other means.

[Shougun]

Who goes into the game laser-focusing on the endgame without doing research about it first?

I haven't made the reason why I think it's a good choice exclusively on end game so you're talking to the wrong person if you want to focus on end game why I think an option is a good thing. I'm sure some other might discuss that perspective better/more excitedly.

Perhaps because WoW has a much higher profit and also has other ways to earn it (like the sub tokens)? What they're losing in sub time to get to level cap, they're earning it through other means.

I wouldn't know if that's why they chose to, it could be a factor for sure. But I think unless one of us is actually part of their financial team we should avoid playing their accountant since we could make a lot of mistakes and bad assumptions doing it (but not because I think you might be wrong, you could be right - I just think it's error prone and assumption city). Although are you saying if we had sub tokens you think a baseline option is a reasonable choice? Keeping in mind I'm not even trying to get the potions as baseline in the first place (even though that's certainly the fastest "fix"), but I do think an optional solution is in order.