Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[reivaxe]

First of all, please look at male roegadyn.

Maybe it's cause I play a max slider Femroe but I actually DO pay attention to what other big people look like. Roebros are walking meat walls/ rectangles with arms that are too long and legs that are too short. Like soft gorilla-ish people. Not exactly the most appealing big race shape you can ask for.

Because of this it's easy for gear to not look great on them.
Hrothgar have inverted triangle shape going on. They have normalized human proportions so that they have more of the hero buff guy shape. Like Yoshi pointed out I do expect gear to look much better on them.
Also ... Roebros aren't that far behind Elezen males. Elezen male's tall skinny guy body shape was far more popular with the newest race to attempt that not only for the better quality but because it added something too (beastly Dragon parts). Stands to reason that a better looking big race would result in better numbers. Case in point, me. I'd never play a Roebro, I think that they're wide AF. I'm all about that Hrothgar though. My Femroe already looks like more of an action hero in the amazing Eureka tank set because femroe have normalized proportions.

Second of all, maybe they didn't replace them (or at elast is what SE says), but they did show viera first, and for many ppl male viera were replaced by hrotgar.
Not to mention that while there was a demand for beast races, it was no where near as big as the demand for viera, with BOTH genders, and as you can tell by this thread ppl wanted an actual race that was more beast like, not 1 gender of a race that was more beastlike

Soooo you don't trust what SE said? KK, not sure what you want me to say. You wont believe anything that's not plucked from your bias.
Viera Males were shown as concept from back when Viera got beat out by the Scaley folk. That's a looong time ago and by the very nature of being concept art it was just ideas.
You also assume the people who wanted Viera (a race that's only ever been shown to be females in the games) cared about seeing males.
And lastly you seem to not be aware of how much Beastly race was asked for. I remember. I was firmly in the pro-Viera threads and we had constant fights with people coming in saying "Gah! Another human with animal ears?!? Why waste time on that? They should make a beast like race!". Many people made threads about it. Most of us used the excuse that SE would be too lay to do that. The want for it was on par with Viera from what i remember, most just thought it was a pipe dream.

[zeylos]

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First of all, look at literally any videogame's beefy huge races and name a single 1 in where they are popular (in WoW worgen, tauren, higmountain tauren and all of the other beast like races only make up for 30% of player population, and the least popular ones are the beefier ones) and in ffxiv I think it's clear that take it as you want male Hrotgar will be almost extinct 1-2 months after the expansion launches. Then the reason why male elezen are so unpopular is because of their giraffe necks and their weird AF animations. Third of all I said that I have my own believes, which I don't think is something you should be aggresive at saying that 'I don't believe anything that's not plucked for my bias'. Then the demand for a beast race was NOT in par with viera. Yes it was big but here you got 2 threads which are clear expamples of that (the beast like race's most likes post is someone saying no)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...w-your-support
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ayable-race%21
You are free to be aggressive towards anybody who dosen't agree with you or with what SE did, but that won't change the way I think.

[SturmChurro]

First of all, look at literally any videogame's beefy huge races and name a single 1 in where they are popular (in WoW worgen, tauren, higmountain tauren and all of the other beast like races only make up for 30% of player population, and the least popular ones are the beefier ones) and in ffxiv I think it's clear that take it as you want male Hrotgar will be almost extinct 1-2 months after the expansion launches. Then the reason why male elezen are so unpopular is because of their giraffe necks and their weird AF animations. Third of all I said that I have my own believes, which I don't think is something you should be aggresive at saying that 'I don't believe anything that's not plucked for my bias'. Then the demand for a beast race was NOT in par with viera. Yes it was big but here you got 2 threads which are clear expamples of that (the beast like race's most likes post is someone saying no)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...w-your-support
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ayable-race%21
You are free to be aggressive towards anybody who dosen't agree with you or with what SE did, but that won't change the way I think.

You are skewing things for your own bias. Viera was probably so highly requested for the female variant for that matter (just watch the trailer - you get the intent), and Hrothgar is a good edition to diversify the racial roster. That's why they added it.

[reivaxe]

First of all, look at literally any videogame's beefy huge races and name a single 1 in where they are popular (in WoW worgen, tauren, higmountain tauren and all of the other beast like races only make up for 30% of player population, and the least popular ones are the beefier ones)

GW2. Plus Wow.

Also you talk about beefy huge races in WoW and ... don't bring up Orcs? The 4th most popular race in a game with with tons of races and they arvg out at about half the human population? And with that number of races the big cow folk are also pretty damn popular considering.

Bias much?

and in ffxiv I think it's clear that take it as you want male Hrotgar will be almost extinct 1-2 months after the expansion launches. Then the reason why male elezen are so unpopular is because of their giraffe necks and their weird AF animations.

LMAO
Soooo you're saying that the Elezen are unpopular because of their body shape and animations and that's why the newer, better looking, different take on that body type is much more popular?
Yet you say I'm wrong for applying the same logic to Roebros? Because in your mind huge races aren't popular?

Also, you assume everyone is in love with what we already have. What if you only play cat bois cause they are legit the only furry male option you have in this game? What if you play scaley boi because they're the most beastly option in this game? What if you'd be happy to play as a big race but don't like Roebro's body shape soo you stick to human? These are the types of people I see most often saying they're gonna convert to Hrothgar.

You seem to think Viera will be popular but there ARE people who doubt that because they're tall and ... well ... the 2 least played female races in this game are tall. Guess we'll see about that to.

Third of all I said that I have my own believes, which I don't think is something you should be aggresive at saying that 'I don't believe anything that's not plucked for my bias'. Then the demand for a beast race was NOT in par with viera. Yes it was big but here you got 2 threads which are clear expamples of that (the beast like race's most likes post is someone saying no)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...w-your-support
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ayable-race%21
You are free to be aggressive towards anybody who dosen't agree with you or with what SE did, but that won't change the way I think.

1- You use this forum as the be-all-end-all of this topic. Have you searched the JPN side of this forum? Have you searched Reddit and other popular hang outs for game discussion? No? Cause I have. I came across the same desire for it over and over. If people weren't asking for Viera they were asking for beast like races. And yes, I said Beast like races. Be it the Wolf men or Burmecian or Ronso, people asked for something Beast like. I'd assume thats why we apparently have a wolf face option to go with the Lion face/ Ronso face/ Jaguar face, to cover more ground and cast a wider net.

I mean hell, I've legit seen forums post polls that ask "which would you want more, Hrothgar MALES or Viera MALES?" and I'm sure you as a Viera male fanatic wouldn't agree with the results.


2- Even using your own bias to these forums, Race wanting was not always the biggest hot topic on these forums. That means that many times people would make threads about them because the last known thread was dead/ old af. Meaning that there's tons of threads that are small and die out ... the Viera thread died many times actually. Even more so when asking about beast like features, people were shouted down by others like myself and were made to feel like it was a pipe dream. Have you added up all those threads over the years asking for basically anything other than Viera? Where are da receipts?