Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
What you believe really doesn't matter when a vote is available. Nor does what someone individually believes matter when a group decides they don't want to keep someone around.

You're endlessly defending the players that could very well be bots on the basis of what, compassion? Pity? A desire to feel like you're protecting someone?

No, the only thing that matters is if someone fills their chosen role in PF. They signed up, saying "I can do this." Saying a human player needs to do more than my chocobo is not unreasonable, nor is it a "savage" threshold to meet.

The thing so many seem to happily ignore is *I* don't do anything; I might put forward a vote, but the party is the one doing the kicking. Others have to see that player as someone they'd rather replace too, and that single underperformer has absolutely no right to obstruct the party.

A sub-chocobo underperformer at this range is a harasser.
Really? Small pulls obstructs the party? Small pulls prevents you from doing base level content? Someone not doing a perfect rotation but stuff is still dieing in base level content is obstructing? If we were talking extreme or savage i’d Agree but base dungeoning no. Base content is the lowest lvl designed for the weaker players and the means to gear for extremes+ for everyone else.

Just because it’s there is not a reason to use the vote kick because you don’t get what you want. Why not just leave the party if they aren’t up to your standards.