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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Eureka wasn't done by a tiny minority, it was a gigantic success. It's difficult to see how they won't do it all over again for 5.0. Relics are a big endgame for people who don't do savage. It's amazing that you actually enjoyed atma, books and things over eureka. I prefer and enjoy Eureka personally.
    I wouldn't say gigantic success. People did it because it had the relic weapons. However it was just a fate + Hunt system slapped together. Nothing revolutionary and nothing massively fun.

    At minimum ilvl expert dungeons are really tough, it's just that there's always one or more players in there with their savage BiS gear and melds inflating the DPS and cheesing the mechanics, not to mention factors like tanks and healers DPSing when that's not intended. Leveling dungeons like The Vault, Gubal Library, Bardam's Mettle and others are a good example of what experts can be like at minimum ilvl.
    Think we are playing different games.
    Experts are literally lick your keyboard to complete content. Not a single one of those dungeons requires anything more than to do the simple mechanic. There's no DPS checks or anything. Those people 'inflating' the DPS. How DARE they play their class and play it well. They should stick to being ice mages right?!

    As for tanks and healers not intended to do DPS.. i mean they have DPS skills so they can DPS. Simple. No point standing there doing nothing while your tank is full HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamein View Post
    Think we are playing different games.
    Experts are literally lick your keyboard to complete content. Not a single one of those dungeons requires anything more than to do the simple mechanic. There's no DPS checks or anything. Those people 'inflating' the DPS. How DARE they play their class and play it well. They should stick to being ice mages right?!

    As for tanks and healers not intended to do DPS.. i mean they have DPS skills so they can DPS. Simple. No point standing there doing nothing while your tank is full HP.
    Completely agree. Expert dungeons are extremely easy, and a lot better with dps that actually know what they are doing. You can skip tons of mechanics with it, like in the burn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamein View Post
    Think we are playing different games.
    Experts are literally lick your keyboard to complete content.
    Because you are overgeared for them. If you're synced close to min ilvl like leveling dungeons it can be very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Because you are overgeared for them. If you're synced close to min ilvl like leveling dungeons it can be very different.
    Nah. I have been in groups that wipe like crazy and take centuries to kill a boss, even in decent gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Because you are overgeared for them. If you're synced close to min ilvl like leveling dungeons it can be very different.
    No, even at minimum ilvl the dungeons are extremely faceroll we've all done them at low ilvl at the start of expansions. There's no challenge in an expert what-so-ever unless you literally do not understand the concept of don't stand in the red thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Because you are overgeared for them. If you're synced close to min ilvl like leveling dungeons it can be very different.
    Please. Even on min ilvl are expert dungeons nowhere near the difficulty of leveling dungeons. I don't even want to start with what you claimed about tank/healer dps and all that other stuff because that would take way to long to point out how wrong you are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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