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    Tbh I think that this they probably just using beast race demand as an excuse to not do male Viera due to their personal bias, yoship stated on an interview that since having male bunnies would be weird he might have to look into a different race for males. Basically, yoship placed his own interests on top of those of the community. GG SE
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Tbh I think that this they probably just using beast race demand as an excuse to not do male Viera due to their personal bias, yoship stated on an interview that since having male bunnies would be weird he might have to look into a different race for males. Basically, yoship placed his own interests on top of those of the community. GG SE
    I think this has to be at least partly true, and it's a sign that Yoshi-P needs to relinquish some creative control.

    They're leaving a lot of money on the table in not implementing male viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Tbh I think that this they probably just using beast race demand as an excuse to not do male Viera due to their personal bias, yoship stated on an interview that since having male bunnies would be weird he might have to look into a different race for males. Basically, yoship placed his own interests on top of those of the community. GG SE
    We have no idea what he meant by saying male viera would be weird. In his mind he could have just been thinking of XII lore and how they're just about non-existent, and so it would be weird to see them in game. This was years ago, and was never elaborated on - but this community has seemingly embraced the worst possible assumption from this one-off comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    We have no idea what he meant by saying male viera would be weird. In his mind he could have just been thinking of XII lore and how they're just about non-existent, and so it would be weird to see them in game. This was years ago, and was never elaborated on - but this community has seemingly embraced the worst possible assumption from this one-off comment.
    I don’t think we’ll have mixed races for a while. Since it seems like Viera is popular around the world we have been proactively looking into this, but since having a rabbit male might be kind of weird, maybe we’ll look into having a separate race for the male counterpart.
    Saying "rabbit male" has different implications than "Viera male".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolDad View Post
    Saying "rabbit male" has different implications than "Viera male".
    He is referencing Viera in the same sentence - why would you assume he's not referring to male viera when he's talking about "rabbit males".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    He is referencing Viera in the same sentence - why would you assume he's not referring to male viera when he's talking about "rabbit males".
    Because that's not what I'm saying at all.

    The sentences "We're looking into Viera, but male Viera might be weird." And "We're looking into Viera, but male rabbits might me weird" have two entirely different implications. One could imply many things -- that because of lack of prior presence they might be weird, for lore reasons it might be weird, because there is something intrinsically weird about Viera being male, etc. Those implications don't apply to to the wording of the second phrase, as "rabbit males might be weird" is much more to the point. It's incredibly specific about what might be off-putting about a male viera: they're rabbits.

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    We have no idea what he meant by saying male viera would be weird.
    We do. He could have any number of reasons for thinking so, and I don't necessarily agree with jumping to the conclusion that the absence of male Viera is absolutely because of a reason given in an interview from 2013, but we know with relative certainty that in this interview he was referring to the concept of male Viera being weird because they are male rabbits and not because of prior games or lore.
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    Last edited by CoolDad; 04-22-2019 at 03:55 PM.

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    THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leomoon View Post
    THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leomoon View Post
    THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING?!

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    Show your Viera here! https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/378643-Show-your-Viera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leomoon View Post
    THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING?!

    It’ll probably continue until it’s confirmed that we’re getting the missing genders.
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