Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Veis_Alveare]

I'm happy with it as it stands really.

We've never seen male Viera up until this point and with all the discussion and buildup since they made it clear they weren't adding them people have varied and strong opinions as to what they should even look like to the point that I don't think SE adding them would even make this topic end.

Like imagine if they added them but they were giant Roe-sized muscle-men. That would satisfy one niche but leave others out. There is no reason to assume their clan differences would vary beyond skin tone either, SE won't be making a bunboi and a buffbun.

This feels very much like part of the playerbase trying to make their own race and they can't even agree on what it should look like.

[Lauront]

I'm happy with it as it stands really.

We've never seen male Viera up until this point and with all the discussion and buildup since they made it clear they weren't adding them people have varied and strong opinions as to what they should even look like to the point that I don't think SE adding them would even make this topic end.

Like imagine if they added them but they were giant Roe-sized muscle-men. That would satisfy one niche but leave others out. There is no reason to assume their clan differences would vary beyond skin tone either, SE won't be making a bunboi and a buffbun.

This feels very much like part of the playerbase trying to make their own race and they can't even agree on what it should look like.

Imagine if they never added male Miqo'te for similar reasons.

They sure didn't seem to take issue with adding female Viera as waifus, though.

[Veis_Alveare]

Imagine if they never added male Miqo'te for similar reasons.

They sure didn't seem to take issue with adding female Viera as waifus, though.

That would be their decision and I'd be fine with it?

No, they didn't have any issue adding a very requested thing (Viera) in a way that both cut costs (only making one gender with no real clan differences) and ensured revenue (people play classicly beautiful female races more than any others and will Fantasia to them).

It's almost like they're a business.

Edit: It's hilarious how people don't address the actual points I'm making and just yell "CATBOYS HAPPENED REEEEEEE" instead as if that's a valid argument. I'm done here for now, still hoping SE sticks to their guns and doesn't capitulate to this whiny mentality.

[Lauront]

That would be their decision and I'd be fine with it?

No, they didn't have any issue adding a very requested thing (Viera) in a way that both cut costs (only making one gender with no real clan differences) and ensured revenue (people play classicly beautiful female races more than any others and will Fantasia to them).

It's almost like they're a business.

They basically added Viera waifus. The diffuse visions people had for female Viera did not seem to prevent their addition, including the "fierce warrior" archetype - so why would it prevent male Viera from being added? Not having seen male catboys did not prevent their addition. So your argument doesn't really hold water. Adding Hrothgar, meanwhile, did not cut costs and does not satisfy the many of us who were not asking for them in the first place.

It's almost like we're consumers giving feedback to said business on what we'd like to see.

Edit: It's hilarious how people don't address the actual points I'm making and just yell "CATBOYS HAPPENED REEEEEEE" instead as if that's a valid argument. I'm done here for now, still hoping SE sticks to their guns and doesn't capitulate to this whiny mentality.

Nice attempt at a sneak edit. The fact of the matter is that your argument is weak, because the rationale you put forward did not rule out gender-lock reversals in similar scenarios. You can caricature rebuttals to your position however you like, but the point has been addressed, is on weak footing and does not prevent SE from undertaking further research to narrow down what people like, if they feel the need to. I think it's interesting that you don't want them added out of a position of pure spite.

[SoloWingMetatron]

I'm happy with it as it stands really.

It's hilarious how people don't address the actual points I'm making and just yell "CATBOYS HAPPENED REEEEEEE" instead as if that's a valid argument. I'm done here for now, still hoping SE sticks to their guns and doesn't capitulate to this whiny mentality.

Glad you're happy with the current state of affairs....but if that's the case why do you have any investment in this?...other than being on the opposition just for the sake of it seemingly..

You're happy with having Viera/Hroth gender locked, that's great....the current state of affairs has catered to your needs and wants just fine..

However not everyone's needs and wants match yours and players are well within their right to vocalize that they would like to see a particular thing changed/implemented, which in this case is the missing genders....this in no way impacts the fact that your needs and wants have already been catered for and will not be taken away...

So I don't quite understand what argument you have for not having said requested change be implemented.