Tank entitlement vs group entitlement

[van_arn]

you are not riteous punishing people for being casual, in the casual content. if you dont want to play with casual players, dont go to a casual queue. Make a party finder, or shout for leet groups.

you wont get any because there is no logical reason to be leet in Random roulettes.

its only once per day, so time per run is kind of irrelevant.
there is no increase in reward for being better at it
it is designed to be hard to fail, especially with gear.

the reasons that SE refuses to design anything that might require the community to act in good faith, and consideration. They cant make dungeons harder, cant give better rewards for skillfull play, they cant have open dungeons, cant have blue mages in duty finder.

And even making the bar low, normalizing rewards per skill, and rigidly controlling and balancing jobs, people still find ways to attack each other over basic baby mode.

keep on throwing children off the fisher price keyboards man, dont defend bad lazy babies

Casual or hardcore isn't relevant. The party has all the tools and authority they need to decide what they feel is bad, and to replace anyone they feel is an obstruction.

Anything beyond that fact is merely a possibility, or petty moralizing.

[Physic]

Casual or hardcore isn't relevant. The party has all the tools and authority they need to decide what they feel is bad, and to replace anyone they feel is an obstruction.

Anything beyond that fact is merely a possibility, or petty moralizing.

incorrect. They gave the party the tools to kick people if they have to, that doesnt mean its ok to kick people for any reason.

Just because its hard to ajudicate kicking doesnt mean its ok to do whatever you want.


Its clear SE views participating in the duty finder, as an agreement you owe a certain level of tolerance to other players, thats why there is a penalty for abandoning the party. Kicking people for arbitrary reasons goes against the spirit of the random duty finder. They leave the kick functionality in so players have the tools to deal with bad situations. Kicking is not designed to be a means of filtering out sub optimal players. Thats what party finder, and guilds are for.

if you are not willing to make a serious attempt to work with players of various skill levels, experience and you should not be entering the duty finder.

the fact that 3 people want to do something wrong, does not make it right.

[van_arn]

incorrect. They gave the party the tools to kick people if they have to, that doesnt mean its ok to kick people for any reason.

Just because its hard to ajudicate kicking doesnt mean its ok to do whatever you want.


Its clear SE views participating in the duty finder, as an agreement you owe a certain level of tolerance to other players, thats why there is a penalty for abandoning the party. Kicking people for arbitrary reasons goes against the spirit of the random duty finder. They leave the kick functionality in so players have the tools to deal with bad situations. Kicking is not designed to be a means of filtering out sub optimal players. Thats what party finder, and guilds are for.

if you are not willing to make a serious attempt to work with players of various skill levels, experience and you should not be entering the duty finder.

the fact that 3 people want to do something wrong, does not make it right.

The fact that the party can kick players for obstruction, where obstruction is very loosely defined, means it really doesn't matter what your opinion on right or wrong is.

Feel free to kick severe underperformers if you feel they are an obstruction, because the votes determine if they're an obstruction or not.

The rest is you moralizing, but that doesn't matter.

[jameseoakes]

The fact that the party can kick players for obstruction, where obstruction is very loosely defined, means it really doesn't matter what your opinion on right or wrong is.

Feel free to kick severe underperformers if you feel they are an obstruction, because the votes determine if they're an obstruction or not.

Van you really do come off as a bully

[Mavrias]

Van you really do come off as a bully

what part of not playing with someone you dont wanna play with bullying? even small children understand that not everyone has to play together