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    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    You can change it you know, only pervy guys will keep that starter gear. What about highlander hempen set then? Just keep first person camera so you don't have to see higher
    That's... is it sexist if you go after someone's sexual orientation? :thinking:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    ...look like strippers? Come on, S.E.

    I was looking forward to playing a Viera for something different but that starting outfit is too much for me to overlook. They look like they are straight out of Forsaken World.

    I thought you were better than that, Square Enix. Count me as disappointed.
    Why strippers? I mean, are the Viera naked because strippers are. No? Then they don't look like strippers.

    Typical stereotyping....
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    That's... is it sexist if you go after someone's sexual orientation? :thinking:
    It's sexist for thinking all of one sex feels, thinks or acts a certain way.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    It's sexist for thinking all of one sex feels, thinks or acts a certain way.
    What I mean to say is girls can like seeing girls. And non pervy guys could also keep them in default to nothing.

    To say only pervy guys would do such a thing is literally wrong. I just can't put my finger on a term that eclipses how wrong they are.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    That's how they always looked.

    That's how they always dressed.

    That's how they always dressed and looked soooo they should be changed because of your opinion of it?
    *nods*

    I know that now. I was unaware of their prior presentation when I made my original post. This MMO and the original Final Fantasy are my only exposure to the franchise.

    So that said, no. I don't believe the gear should be changed. It's an homage to the original viera gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    you are being completely RIDICULOUS. They do NOT look like strippers. They are dancers and need less clothing to move around more freely. Also, they are more natural and less sensitive about showing more skins than hyurs (humans) dont be a perv. Warriors races dont all need stupid ugly heavy armor. Dont be insensitive. Are you just crying out for attention?
    Nope, I'm not crying out for attention. I just didn't like what I saw and let SE know my opinion.

    I'm not seeing how having an issue with a set of starter gear, which I feel objectifies women, makes me a pervert or insensitive.

    Why strippers? I mean, are the Viera naked because strippers are. No? Then they don't look like strippers.

    Typical stereotyping....
    The starter gear reminded me of what some of my friends would wear when they were working. Make of that what you will.

    And, I am talking about the starter gear. I'm not calling Viera a race of strippers.
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 04-14-2019 at 05:21 AM.

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    Well sex sells
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    What I mean to say is girls can like seeing girls. And non pervy guys could also keep them in default to nothing.

    To say only pervy guys would do such a thing is literally wrong. I just can't put my finger on a term that eclipses how wrong they are.
    Well "sexist" is usually the go-to term people use when something like that comes up. I can't think of a stronger word either. I mean calling someone sexist is already pretty bad in and of itself so.....

    Of course there's always "homophobic" since those two words are typically thrown around together.
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    Last edited by Joven; 04-14-2019 at 05:30 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    You can change it you know, only pervy guys will keep that starter gear. What about highlander hempen set then? Just keep first person camera so you don't have to see higher
    I'm a straight female and I'm totally gonna sport that starter gear now and then. The husband may question why I'm running around half naked, but that's not my problem.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I mean calling someone sexist is already pretty bad in and of itself so.
    It's a term invented for a reason. If someone fits into the definition, then it should be used. No word or phrase of ill intent is good in nature unless it's just one of those words that got twisted in translation.

    Someone could say, "I hate X." To not call someone out on it and to let them continue is even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    Well sex sells


    Hahaha omg...
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