Why Does A Fierce Race Of Female Warriors...

[Daralii]

I mean, that's if you forget that FFTA (the very first game they appear in) is a thing.

Viera fencer:


Viera red mage:


Elementalist and Archer are both skimpy, which in total is half their available jobs in FFTA.

[MikkoAkure]

I mean, that's if you forget that FFTA (the very first game they appear in) is a thing.

The concept art of a non-job default viera in FFTA wears a tiny bikini top attached to a strip of cloth. The same outfit turned into tiny bits of metal defying the laws of physics with a strip of cloth in FFXII. What we've got could have been worse.

FFTA:


FFXII:

[Gula]

[Rings bell]
SHAME

Let's not ever consider isolated and territorial peoples who regularly wear nothing or loincloths for identity. If their weaving and leather working bring them to something sensual to the outsiders eye, that's their fantasy culture. No one's wearing chainmail micro-bikinis or intentional fetish gear like TERA. I think their race clothing is alluring and graceful.

Oh sorry I meant-

[Rings bell]
SHAME

[Skivvy]

[Rings bell]
SHAME

Let's not ever consider isolated and territorial peoples who regularly wear nothing or loincloths for identity. If their weaving and leather working bring them to something sensual to the outsiders eye, that's their fantasy culture. No one's wearing chainmail micro-bikinis or intentional fetish gear like TERA. I think their race clothing is alluring and graceful.

Oh sorry I meant-

[Rings bell]
SHAME

Hey, I like the Viera and I like their outfits but lets not pretend they aren't designed to look sexy. There's nothing wrong with that either IMO, but equating their skimpy gear to that of an isolated RL tribe - that's a bit of a stretch to me.

With that said, my fantasias are ready and I shall be hooching it up - at least for awhile

[Joven]

I do think it would be unfair to say continued commitment to FFXIV after 1.0 was only motivated by passion though. I suspect a big part of it was they had an idea of how to fix things and they had already committed a lot of resources.

From what I've been lead to believe through my time reading these forums is that the money XIV is generating gets leeched off for other projects, which is why they're constantly low on resources. That's why I said this seems to be almost wholly a passion project, because why would you continue to try and deliver high quality content when you're not getting the funding and resources your content is generating? I get that the Japanese have pride in their work and all, but everyone has a limit on what they're willing to do when expectations over takes compensation.

If players are using language and/or modding to the point that it goes into hard R or X territory, I think SE absolutely has the right to enforce that. But I think to completely forget and ignore consumer demand is a huge mistake and can seriously lead to the death of a franchise. SE is pretty damn good to its fans, and I think their success reflects that. I don't think they should stop that.

I'm not saying they should ignore consumer demand, just that they should be allowed some wiggle room to be able to say "no" when a demand is either unreasonable/not possible or doesn't fit with what they have in mind going forward and that we as fans need to understand that they have limitations to what they can do from a technical standpoint and from a story/world building stand point. They've made so many concession about adding things that fans think if they make enough noise the devs will cave and that's not a good dynamic to have.

As for modding: that's a completely different area and SE should with all certainty put their foot down on that because the modders are breaking the ToS even if the mods they're adding is something minor.\

Additionally, they can absolutely leave off the West if they wanted or had to. It would be a shame, but they 100% would survive. Their domestic success is absolutely insane. They literally do not need us. On top of this, because of Western media being in the toilet more and more people have been turning to Asian media instead across a number of entertainment mediums.

The reason I said that is because if you pay attention to some of the news around anime you can see some minor signs of western values affecting the genre. One example is the creator of Sword Art Online Reki Kawahara. He did an interview where he talks about how he needs to keep "political correctness" in mind in the future. Here's a video talking about the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu2TGF60yGM&t=412s. It may be a minor thing, but that's how it always starts, you ignore it because it seems insignificant until you turn around and it's grown to consume everything, just like it has in the West.

[van_arn]

If they dress that way, it's because you want them to dress that way.

If skin offends you, set your glamor as your favorite armor or conservative outfit.

[Arrhin]

I actually like the gear, there's some interesting patterns and textures to it. As to the practicality of it, well lets assume for the sake of realism that it is perhaps ceremonial? I mean, I play Miqo'te and yes we are way over sexualized if not in lore but in the games player culture. Yes, SE did provide the tools (gear) but that's available to all races and there's skimpy stuffs fer both represented genders as noted by others. I play both sides of that coin, meaning I dress for the occasion, we have that nice Glam thingie xD. Typically in serious, proper duties I glam practical or realistic gearsets so PUGs etc will take me seriously more or less. When playin with friends, or for certain weekly events I may go with a theme, or joke glam. With certain ppl who are appreciative (Elv-wife) I may go all sexy like, just fer kicks, mine and theirs. We have one person who likes to laugh at that kind of silliness so I hit the two piece up in every instance where it makes the least sense in terms of realism, live the stereotype he shouts! I've never had any issues offending others with how I dress but I do play with a rather tight knit group and for the most part we are a pretty gender fluid group and the jokes, they do fly. Anyways, wear what floats yer boat, anyone who would say something will be offended no matter what /shrug

[Gula]

If they dress that way, it's because you want them to dress that way.

If skin offends you, set your glamor as your favorite armor or conservative outfit.

Me with the 3 retainers on display in various bikinis and maid accessories.

[guardin]

...look like strippers? Come on, S.E.

I was looking forward to playing a Viera for something different but that starting outfit is too much for me to overlook. They look like they are straight out of Forsaken World.

I thought you were better than that, Square Enix. Count me as disappointed.

you are being completely RIDICULOUS. They do NOT look like strippers. They are dancers and need less clothing to move around more freely. Also, they are more natural and less sensitive about showing more skins than hyurs (humans) dont be a perv. Warriors races dont all need stupid ugly heavy armor. Dont be insensitive. Are you just crying out for attention?

[Leloa]

You can change it you know, only pervy guys will keep that starter gear. What about highlander hempen set then? Just keep first person camera so you don't have to see higher