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  1. #31
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    Nominous's Avatar
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    Nominous Lhant
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I just had an even more interesting idea, but I don't know that they'd do it, or how it'd be balanced...

    oGCD Combo paths.

    Shinten leading in to a higher damage oGCD (Shinten button would change automatically). I don't think they'd ever do it, but I was just visualizing it and it'd give SAM a more visually interesting rotation to do stabs AND slashes between GCD's. Either way, we do need another kenki spend.
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  2. #32
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
    I just had an even more interesting idea, but I don't know that they'd do it, or how it'd be balanced...

    oGCD Combo paths.

    Shinten leading in to a higher damage oGCD (Shinten button would change automatically). I don't think they'd ever do it, but I was just visualizing it and it'd give SAM a more visually interesting rotation to do stabs AND slashes between GCD's. Either way, we do need another kenki spend.
    They do already have designs for another 3 Sen thanks to Zenos being put in Dissidia.
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  3. #33
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    Misty Regions
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Y u noe keep me DPS, me no like stop DPS, me Have fun DPS only, Relaxing it is.
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  4. #34
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    Katuchi La-chancla
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    Moogle
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    Bard Lv 90
    Sam gameplay is almost perfect and i wish they don't touch it much. I hope they keep it very selfish and don't give them any utility.
    I like focusing on my own dps and looking at what the boss is casting and doing mechanics without having to worry about anything else.
    i just wish they get rid of "third eye", it feels so pointless.
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  5. #35
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brownondorf View Post
    i just wish they get rid of "third eye", it feels so pointless.
    I find Third Eye quite useful and Merciful Eyes almost mandatory with some of the tanks I've had in pugs.

    I'd rather they keep niche abilities for those of us who find use for them. Those who find them pointless can simply take them off their bar.
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  6. #36
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I'd rather they keep niche abilities for those of us who find use for them. Those who find them pointless can simply take them off their bar.
    The issue with that sentiment, is that they want jobs to have a set number of skills (24 I believe)

    Keeping niche abilities instead of using that space to have you know... An actual useful skill. Is somewhat detrimental to the job as a whole.
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  7. #37
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    The issue with that sentiment, is that they want jobs to have a set number of skills (24 I believe)

    Keeping niche abilities instead of using that space to have you know... An actual useful skill. Is somewhat detrimental to the job as a whole.
    We better start getting talent trees then.
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  8. #38
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Never talent trees for online games. People will simply math out the best spec and anything that isn't that spec will be seen as gimp. Likely they will add traits to turn one skill into another or add a stance that turns some weaponskills into others. Think how heat on MCH turns their 1-2-3 into a buffed 1-2-3, or how Blood of the Dragon turns Geirskogul into Nastrond.
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  9. #39
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    Misty Regions
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Never talent trees for online games. People will simply math out the best spec and anything that isn't that spec will be seen as gimp. Likely they will add traits to turn one skill into another or add a stance that turns some weaponskills into others. Think how heat on MCH turns their 1-2-3 into a buffed 1-2-3, or how Blood of the Dragon turns Geirskogul into Nastrond.
    Min/maxers will always find the optimal way to do things, what we need to change as a community is how we use and perceive this information. Min/maxers make it seem like content is impossible to do without specific setups, but that is far from truth and should not be taken as gospel.
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  10. #40
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Never talent trees for online games. People will simply math out the best spec and anything that isn't that spec will be seen as gimp. Likely they will add traits to turn one skill into another or add a stance that turns some weaponskills into others. Think how heat on MCH turns their 1-2-3 into a buffed 1-2-3, or how Blood of the Dragon turns Geirskogul into Nastrond.
    Constantly chopping out abilities to add new stuff higher up leaves the lower levels in this shambled, empty husk.

    Either let us choose what to keep or be better about trait upgrades, meaningful ones that aren't just LolWhiteMage stone5.
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