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    KaijinRhada's Avatar
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    Gender lock threads exist in abundance for both options. Let's not dilute the topic, and stick to the megathreads.

    Quote Originally Posted by VertoIncantation View Post
    But here's the issue, Viera lore is ivalice, female only. Males are NEVER seen (and were never plan) aside for mating and only in the woods/jungle, away from praying eyes in a protected area hidden by a strong barrier accessible only to female viera. Now that viera is finally coming to FF14, people want more (like always from this rabbid fanbase, just look at china/korea costume topics) out of something that doesn't exist. Yea sure the race could be born in a year or 2, with new lore and patch and whatever, but right now, it doesn't exist.
    Honestly, if the lore of Ivalice was that important, why was the timeline of the Ivalice events changed to be backwards? Why was Ovelia just a footnote, and Delita not in character? Why were Ashe and Rasler twins and not husband and wife? Why not ask Matsuno, who already said that he had no input in implementing the race in the first place, outside of the stuff he's already written? FFXIV borrows from other games and changes it as it sees fit. Nothing is sacred.

    By the account of lore, civilization-advanced Ivalice races aside from humans are extinct by the time Tactics rolled around. By the same token, if they really wanted to keep it to the lore, they would have never introduced male Miqo'te, and if they wanted the spirit of an imported race, the same would apply to female Roegadyn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaijinRhada View Post
    Gender lock threads exist in abundance for both options. Let's not dilute the topic, and stick to the megathreads.



    Honestly, if the lore of Ivalice was that important, why was the timeline of the Ivalice events changed to be backwards? Why was Ovelia just a footnote, and Delita not in character? Why were Ashe and Rasler twins and not husband and wife? Why not ask Matsuno, who already said that he had no input in implementing the race in the first place, outside of the stuff he's already written? FFXIV borrows from other games and changes it as it sees fit. Nothing is sacred.

    By the account of lore, civilization-advanced Ivalice races aside from humans are extinct by the time Tactics rolled around. By the same token, if they really wanted to keep it to the lore, they would have never introduced male Miqo'te, and if they wanted the spirit of an imported race, the same would apply to female Roegadyn.
    I mean even if you go by lore, the viera's first appearance was in advance, which was a fantasy version of ivalice made by mewt, in XII there are male viera they simply live separately from the women(apparently this was apart of the multitude of cut content from XII from what I remember) this is the same in advance2 since unlike advance A2 takes place in the same ivalice as XII just several years into the future iirc. So based on lore Viera has never been a "Female only" race in the sense that males do not exist ever.

    So the lore excuse is just bad, I do understand the development teams desire to not add in viera but doing it out of obligation. That being said I would have rather they stuck to their guns and released full hrothgar and maybe release viera for 6.0. I just think the "2 races in one expansion!" business tactic was just bad.
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    I'm honestly surprised the devs are even releasing ANY new races because they had to know something like this would happen. Even if they did release both genders for each race then it would be "why do the males get this pose while the females don't?" Or "why do females get this facial feature and males don't?" Blah blah blah. It's a never ending cycle on here. Each race/gender should have things to make them unique, if they didn't then what would be the point of having multiple races/genders.

    I for one am simply happy by the fact that we ARE getting new races and I'm anxiously awaiting both of them. I even transfered one of my alts to another server to make room for both on my main server. Be happy that we're getting anything at all and stop making such a fuss before the content even comes out, you'll be a lot happier for it.
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