Gender-locking isn't sexist

[DamianFatale]

The definition of sexism is anything that limits, or restricts a gender on the basis of gender roles.

Not letting us play female Hrothgar because they stay at home to protect the children is sexist.

Not letting us play male Viera because they are out in the woods doing stereotypical man stuff is sexist.

[Vahlnir]

The definition of sexism is anything that limits, or restricts a gender on the basis of gender roles.

Not letting us play female Hrothgar because they stay at home to protect the children is sexist.

Not letting us play male Viera because they are out in the woods doing stereotypical man stuff is sexist.

Or they are sticking to their lore. Whether I agree with that decision or not is a whole other thing. Nothing about this is sexist though. Not a darn thing. Like I said in another thread...people need to stop throwing this word around freely. If anything it makes people not take others seriously. Playing different races which have different playable genders in a video game is not the same as true sexism in real life.

[DamianFatale]

Or they are sticking to their lore. Whether I agree with that decision or not is a whole other thing. Nothing about this is sexist though. Not a darn thing. Like I said in another thread...people need to stop throwing this word around freely. If anything it makes people not take others seriously. Playing different races which have different playable genders in a video game is not the same as true sexism in real life.

I disagree with you. A lot of men and woman feel personally attacked right now, and I can understand why. Gender norms are a hot button issue right now, because everyone is sick of being stereotyped. Its only natural that our society is reevaluating them right now after all the stuff men and women have been through.

[Vahlnir]

I disagree with you. A lot of men and woman feel personally attacked right now, and I can understand why. Gender norms are a hot button issue right now, because everyone is sick of being stereotyped. Its only natural that our society is reevaluating them right now after all the stuff men and women have been through.

You may disagree with me, that's fine. But you and many others are using the wrong agenda in the worst way to get what you want here and expect to be taken seriously.

[Wynn_Storm]

I disagree with you. A lot of men and woman feel personally attacked right now, and I can understand why.

I can't understand why. Its a video game character, not them. I think its stupid to feel personally attacked over a video game. People need to get a reality check, the character in game is not them. Don't try to take everything so personally.

But i forget that everyone is so sensitive now. Makes me feel old when i remember how people used to have such thick skin back then, and the cry babies of today would be abnormal and not the norm like it is now.

[AcornFox]

I can't understand why. Its a video game character, not them. I think its stupid to feel personally attacked over a video game. People need to get a reality check, the character in game is not them. Don't try to take everything so personally.

But i forget that everyone is so sensitive now. Makes me feel old when i remember how people used to have such thick skin back then, and the cry babies of today would be abnormal and not the norm like it is now.

I think this is a dangerous line to lead, Sensitivity has little to do with it. Things in the passed where not entirely good and often when you refer to this, you are actually pointing out that oppressed groups of people had no way to ever voice themselves.
I mean, i am old enough to have had to hide my Sexuality at fear of being attacked. Just, And that men used to tell me what i could and could not read and be interested in.
Sensitivity, its little of the sort. Its that people are far more free to discuss things in the open. Really, i think the people who lament for better times are acting more as they speak right now.

[Wynn_Storm]

I think this is a dangerous line to lead, Sensitivity has little to do with it. Things in the passed where not entirely good and often when you refer to this, you are actually pointing out that oppressed groups of people had no way to ever voice themselves.
I mean, i am old enough to have had to hide my Sexuality at fear of being attacked. Just, And that men used to tell me what i could and could not read and be interested in.
Sensitivity, its little of the sort. Its that people are far more free to discuss things in the open. Really, i think the people who lament for better times are acting more as they speak right now.

I think sensitivity has a lot to do with it. People are offended by everything today. It may not have been perfect back then, but i do think people had thicker skin.

I don't see how what i said has anything to do with oppressed people. There is no oppression going on. This is about a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER. I don't see how this oppresses anyone in real life.

Overall sexuality shouldn't have anything to do with this. Its a video game character, and people are drawing at straws that aren't there.

Everyone is trying to push an agenda, period. If you want to call me ignorant, so be it. But i think people are making a huge deal over something so tiny.

[Arkdra]

I can't understand why. Its a video game character, not them. I think its stupid to feel personally attacked over a video game. People need to get a reality check, the character in game is not them. Don't try to take everything so personally.

But i forget that everyone is so sensitive now. Makes me feel old when i remember how people used to have such thick skin back then, and the cry babies of today would be abnormal and not the norm like it is now.

People's characters are them, and people weren't more thick skinned back in the day, they just had much less power to speak up for themselves. That is not the case anymore, which is cool.

To the OP, lore is not a valid argument. Eorzea is not some bespoke creation where Sephiroth floats down from the 7th heaven and hands Banri Oda a tome of immutable Eorzean facts. The writing team tacitly decided on their regressive lore and it passed Yoshi P at some point. But let's be realistic, they decided on not doing male Viera well before they wrote the lore and then wrote the lore to try and deflect criticism and I guess it works because here we are.

Does this make Yoshi P and the lore team sexist? I don't know them enough to say. Based on what Yoshi P said about dancer, I imagine not. But is this another in a growing list of things I am finding concerning? Yeah it is. I don't like the Au Ra dimorphism, I don't like that it took them 2 years to get male bunny outfits in the game, I don't like that they've shifted towards making more gender distinct equipment and I don't like genderlocked races.

But I am more bothered that Minfilia is back so whatcha gonna do?

[Wynn_Storm]

People's characters are them

My character is not me, i am not a cat girl in real life.