Since Lore Suddenly Matters

[QT_Melon]

Neither does Big = Roe

Neither does Hthrogar = Ronso but they made that connection.

Because they don't look anything like the ones in X but here we are worried about Viera being close to the ones in 12?

[Daralii]

Neither does Hthrogar = Ronso but they made that connection.

Because they don't look anything like the ones in X but here we are worried about Viera being close to the ones in 12?

One of the Hrothgar clans has a horn, and this was a slide from the keynote:



They're Ronso with a slight hunch and more muscle.

[QT_Melon]

One of the Hrothgar clans has a horn, and this was a slide from the keynote:


They're Ronso with a slight hunch and more muscle.

No they're just a boring cut and paste body type of Galka 1.0 instead of at least trying to make them more interesting and change the body types by clan. Ronso have different builds that's my point.

I mean you can paint Will Smith Blue and CG in Genie features but it has to be a convincing translation, and that was my point about the Ronso they aren't.

[LineageRazor]

No they're just a boring cut and paste body type of Galka 1.0 instead of at least trying to make them more interesting and change the body types by clan. Ronso have different builds that's my point.

I mean you can paint Will Smith Blue and CG in Genie features but it has to be a convincing translation, and that was my point about the Ronso they aren't.

With the exception of Au Ra, ALL of the races in FFXIV are interpretations of races from other games. Hrothgar aren't Ronso any more than Roegadyn are Galka. They are inspired by Ronso, sure, and with the right customization options can look very similar to Ronso, but bottom line, they are their own race.

Viera being so very similar to FFXII's Viera (even keeping the same name!) is the EXCEPTION, not the norm, and very likely the decision to make them exact copies was due to perceived fan demand. They had a lot more flexibility with the Hrothgar, because they were less likely to cause an uproar with every little change they made to the original Ronso design. (There was an uproar, sure, but it's not about how non-Ronso-y the Hrothgar are...)

[Bright-Flower]

With the exception of Au Ra, ALL of the races in FFXIV are interpretations of races from other games. Hrothgar aren't Ronso any more than Roegadyn are Galka. They are inspired by Ronso, sure, and with the right customization options can look very similar to Ronso, but bottom line, they are their own race.

Viera being so very similar to FFXII's Viera (even keeping the same name!) is the EXCEPTION, not the norm, and very likely the decision to make them exact copies was due to perceived fan demand. They had a lot more flexibility with the Hrothgar, because they were less likely to cause an uproar with every little change they made to the original Ronso design. (There was an uproar, sure, but it's not about how non-Ronso-y the Hrothgar are...)

They're inviting comparisons to Ronso when they call the First version of Hrothgar ronsos.

[LineageRazor]

They're inviting comparisons to Ronso when they call the First version of Hrothgar ronsos.

What makes you think the devs don't want to invite comparisons to Ronso? By showing the Hrothgar they built to look similar to Khimari, I think it's obvious they DO want folks to draw comparisons. However, "Inspired by" does not mean "exact copies of". Compare Roegadyn to Galka - Roes were inspired by Galka, and bear similarities to them, but are definitely not the same. A properly constructed Roe, though, can look very much like a Galka, minus the tail. Hrothgar have many traits that Ronso do, but they are NOT Ronso. If you want to build your Hrothgar to look like a Ronso, you can, and you can come pretty close, but at the end of the day you're playing a Hrothgar, not a Ronso. An "average" Hrothgar does not much resemble a Ronso, and that's fine.

The oddball here is the Viera, who DO look pretty much exactly like the original Viera, and even have the same race name. It remains to be seen how flexible the character creation system will be in deviating from the "standard" Viera look.