Gender locked race?

[cicatriz313]

Lmao I've honestly never noticed how miniscule the differences were.

[Tabbs]

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Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but you seemed to be implying that both clans of Viera were shown off in the teaser video in your original post, which is not confirmed. And again, I didn't say you were against any idea. Trust me, I'd love to have Feol as a playable option lol.

That being said, the Rava on the wiki appear to be significantly darker than the Veena. If dark skin is a hallmark of the Rava, I'd imagine they'd definitely have chosen some darker tone options for the teaser, as the ones from the video may as well all be Veena when compared to Viera from 12.

[Tabbs]

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You can't prove that the teaser video reflected this. Every race's art distinctly depicts the difference, yet for the Viera the "difference" is so close that they may as well all be Veena. Here is some color picking from the image you posted:



The middle one that you claim is a Rava isn't very much darker than the other two, if at all. Just more saturated. The big portrait seems to be a close up of the middle bun considering the hair style and color are the same. Yes, all of our current race's clans have potential to be very similar to each other, but the promotional art for them always distinctly shows off their differences. The same can't really be said here, unless that's truly as dark as we can make our Rava Viera, which seems unlikely.

[Gwenorai]

Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but you seemed to be implying that both clans of Viera were shown off in the teaser video in your original post, which is not confirmed. And again, I didn't say you were against any idea. Trust me, I'd love to have Feol as a playable option lol.

That being said, the Rava on the wiki appear to be significantly darker than the Veena. If dark skin is a hallmark of the Rava, I'd imagine they'd definitely have chosen some darker tone options for the teaser, as the ones from the video may as well all be Veena when compared to Viera from 12.

Aye, I did. And that was on me, I should have said 'Likely' shown, rather than the absolute 'they were shown' as if it was fact. While I do believe both clans were there; I'm rather upset at the small differences. However, it's not so much their appearances that's going to bother me; it's their background lore. Veena and Rava share the same background, habitat etc. At least with the other subraces, they have different lore - different background and religious belief. Surely they can't have them like that, otherwise what's the point? Adding on the whole 'No male' thing is just going to be a double whammy.

I would also love Feol Viera as that would fill in the 'nitch' people want to be small and slender.

I'm honestly not sure why they didn't show the darker skin tone of Rava - perhaps due to Fran? She has a dark skin tone, much darker than those shown in the video.

According to the wiki/lore books as well, all Viera have 'white hair' those who leave the wood just dye it? So that's one less 'subrace specific' characteristics. Bah, they really need to add the dudes to spice this up a little.

[artyport]

There will be no large male viera.
There will be foel viera that are cute but don’t have the pointed high heel shoe. These will have both gender.
Hrothgar will be male only and have the viera foot trait but no heel.


Mark my words

[Tabbs]

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Yeah, very often the subraces have considerably different cultural backgrounds as well. I'm inclined to believe we're getting males, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Sorry about the confusion lol.

[Gwenorai]

Yeah, very often the subraces have considerably different cultural backgrounds as well. I'm inclined to believe we're getting males, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Sorry about the confusion lol.

Nah, I was the one who put down the incorrect wording and then got defensive, I shouldn't have done that so I apologise on that one.

It would be extremely interesting if the males were the subrace due to how different the Viera live... Their lifestyles are two sides of one coin, vastly different but still connected. Part of me thinks it would make sense for them to be separated. Also allows for the blurb of information to more precise on the two genders.

[Theodric]

Hyur are currently the only playable race with notable differences between their clans. I don't expect that to change with Viera, especially when they're designed around appealing to fans of how they were portrayed in FFXII.

[Lauront]

If the two clans had pronounced differences like the Feol and the pureblood Viera, I am sure they would have been mentioned by the Dramaturge. The fact that they were not leads me to think it's little more than the palette differences we see in the Au Ra, Elezen and Miqo'te. I.e. very minor differences, which is indeed a shame.

Also, were the Feol actually smaller? I've not seen that confirmed anywhere. That said, as a hybrid race, it would not be out of the question in FFXIV specific lore, and SE could come up with any reason it wanted for subrace dimorphism.

There will be no large male viera.
There will be foel viera that are cute but don’t have the pointed high heel shoe. These will have both gender.
Hrothgar will be male only and have the viera foot trait but no heel.


Mark my words

I wish I had your crystal ball.

[Tabbs]

Nah, I was the one who put down the incorrect wording and then got defensive, I shouldn't have done that so I apologise on that one.

It would be extremely interesting if the males were the subrace due to how different the Viera live... Their lifestyles are two sides of one coin, vastly different but still connected. Part of me thinks it would make sense for them to be separated. Also allows for the blurb of information to more precise on the two genders.

That would be interesting tbh! Especially considering we don't know much about their naming conventions. I was thinking it's possible that Rava and Veena could be surnames for our Viera naming conventions, similar to how Auri use clan surnames and how male Seekers only have 2 options for surnames, Tia and Nunh. So maybe male/female for clans, then Rava and Veena would just be surnames, and the skin and hair tones would just be widened up to encompass both Rava and Veena?

Not sure how likely that is, but it'd be interesting for sure.