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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Eh, I don't think so, we haven't seen the subrace yet, not even in the art, if you compare the art assets we've been given to what we got for au ra there was a clear distinction between the xaela and the raen with the female being raen and the male being xaela, but we have no such GLARINGLY noticeable distinction in the art. We don't even have a second lighter skin viera 3D model representative of the lighter skinned race. I don't think it's too tin foil to stretch a bit here, I also doubt the official translator would translate anything incorrectly without being corrected or told to stop.
    Except we have seen the sub race? The game says the distinct subclans are the light skinned Veena, and the dark skinned Rava.


    This is reflected in the in game footage we were shown, 2 Rava, and 2 Veena:


    As well as the art:


    The Viera on the far left could either be a Rava or a Veena, but is most likely a Veena to balance out 2 and 2 once again. There will certainly be some overlapping in skin tones, as this exists with plenty of the races we have currently such as these two comparisons of Duskwight and Wildwood Elezen, though I doubt you could tell which was which.



    And some races like Lalafell don't even have any differences in their skin tone palettes at all. It's very likely Viera will have a gradient, where the palest options will be restricted to the Veena, and the darkest options restricted to the Rava, but the middle options will potentially be shared by both. The two Viera clan differences will come in the shape of other smaller things such as facial markings etc. Just like virtually every other race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
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    You can't prove that the teaser video reflected this. Every race's art distinctly depicts the difference, yet for the Viera the "difference" is so close that they may as well all be Veena. Here is some color picking from the image you posted:



    The middle one that you claim is a Rava isn't very much darker than the other two, if at all. Just more saturated. The big portrait seems to be a close up of the middle bun considering the hair style and color are the same. Yes, all of our current race's clans have potential to be very similar to each other, but the promotional art for them always distinctly shows off their differences. The same can't really be said here, unless that's truly as dark as we can make our Rava Viera, which seems unlikely.
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    There will be no large male viera.
    There will be foel viera that are cute but don’t have the pointed high heel shoe. These will have both gender.
    Hrothgar will be male only and have the viera foot trait but no heel.


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    If the two clans had pronounced differences like the Feol and the pureblood Viera, I am sure they would have been mentioned by the Dramaturge. The fact that they were not leads me to think it's little more than the palette differences we see in the Au Ra, Elezen and Miqo'te. I.e. very minor differences, which is indeed a shame.

    Also, were the Feol actually smaller? I've not seen that confirmed anywhere. That said, as a hybrid race, it would not be out of the question in FFXIV specific lore, and SE could come up with any reason it wanted for subrace dimorphism.

    Quote Originally Posted by artyport View Post
    There will be no large male viera.
    There will be foel viera that are cute but don’t have the pointed high heel shoe. These will have both gender.
    Hrothgar will be male only and have the viera foot trait but no heel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
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    Feol only had smaller ears. I myself thought they were genuinely shorter at one point. Seems to be a case of Berenstain Bears. That being said, if we don't get playable Feol, I wouldn't be shocked if we saw NPC Feol at some point. Something akin to Hilda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbs View Post
    You can't prove that the teaser video reflected this. Every race's art distinctly depicts the difference,
    It's incredibly safe to assume, there was two of each, just like with the Au Ra video which is the only thing we can compare it to. As for every race's art distinctly depicting the difference? Really?

    Which clans are these miqo'te then?

    Or how about these Elezen? I can make a duskwight and wildwood look exactly like both of those.

    Or the lalafell maybe? Sure only looks like plainsfolk to me.

    The Roegadyn one certainly isn't showing a Hellsguard.

    So, in fact the only racial art previously to clearly show both sub clans is the Au Ra one
    and if you covered the horns/tails up, you'd be hard pressed to tell which was which, especially not on skin tone alone.


    1 out of 6 is hardly grounds to claim every race art has depicted this. And if you had read the rest of my post, you would have seen that it's perfectly fine that Viera will have an overlap of skin tones because just about every player race does, even when they have completely different skin color pallet selections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
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    I'm discussing the artwork which new players are intended to see, and the default representations of the races in the character creator. Please consider this image, using the official renders of the two Miqo'te clans on the website, as well as the image you posted previously:



    Also, the Au Ra teaser video distinctly shows us two clans. One has a set of dark horns and faded/darker skin, the other has white horns and lighter skin. The Viera teaser video BARELY has a range of tones.

    EDIT: I should note, I could have done this with Elezen or Au Ra as well. I didn't specifically single out Miqo'te. The website and game distinctly show off clan differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
    Except we have seen the sub race? The game says the distinct subclans are the light skinned Veena, and the dark skinned Rava.


    This is reflected in the in game footage we were shown, 2 Rava, and 2 Veena:


    As well as the art:


    The Viera on the far left could either be a Rava or a Veena, but is most likely a Veena to balance out 2 and 2 once again. There will certainly be some overlapping in skin tones, as this exists with plenty of the races we have currently such as these two comparisons of Duskwight and Wildwood Elezen, though I doubt you could tell which was which.



    And some races like Lalafell don't even have any differences in their skin tone palettes at all. It's very likely Viera will have a gradient, where the palest options will be restricted to the Veena, and the darkest options restricted to the Rava, but the middle options will potentially be shared by both. The two Viera clan differences will come in the shape of other smaller things such as facial markings etc. Just like virtually every other race.
    We only have one 3D model for viera however, whereas au ra had both Raen and Xaela. Every race has two 3D models showing both subraces, yet Viera doesn't, and again we haven't seen the subraces outside of the dramaturge's dialogue, we haven't even seen their 3D model or artwork yet. Which again hasn't been confirmed during the teaser at all, I'm not saying it's a stretch to assume, but it's a bit much to say for certain something you don't know.
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