Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
I didn't say the race IS a joke i said why people may see them as a joke because the more memorable male roes are treated as such whether by name convention or the way they act you have Mylwerb's right hand man is the most serious male roe you have to interact with in msq followed by Rititayn(lv49 trial), HW portrayal of Gosetsu was a comedic loud man something i'm glad SB didn't add more to, you then have the guy who calls titan Titus, SE's portrayal of male roes is the issue there when they want us to take them serious i will

The problem is Hildabrand is optional you are not forced to interact with him and his adventures you are forced to interact with the above people and male roes in msq are the most comical characters just like lalas are portrayed as money grubbing etc the problem is SE way of writing and portraying them.
Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
I never said they were a joke; hence I said 'not so sure about that' and then just mentioned some of the joke chaps that currently existed?
There is a difference between a joke character and a character with some comedic moments or comedic attributes.
Yes Gosetsu have some comedic moments, but so do Tataru, Magnai, and even Thancred (the whole naked thing). I assume you don't think of them as joke characters?