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  1. #91
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    Klive's Avatar
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    Klynwilf Spellrifter
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    More I play THM and more people realize the damage output of THM on primal fights; I fear a nerf more than I hope for mana cost reduction. I one shot monsters higher level than me and single combo chain can kill most normal monster. Honestly, I'll take some down time for this level of damage output.

    The mana cost is needed; otherwise what holds back our massive damage output?
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  2. #92
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    Blood Omen
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    The MP to damage ratio needs some work. Tier I damage spells are much more efficient for damage than higher tiers, unlike Cure and Cura. It would be nice if elemental nukes were brought in line with cures. Right now, I play CNJ as a DD caster instead of THM on endgame fights. They have the tools to stay in the fight. I would like to use my Ifrit's cudgel some day.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamutaru View Post
    The MP to damage ratio needs some work. Tier I damage spells are much more efficient for damage than higher tiers, unlike Cure and Cura. It would be nice if elemental nukes were brought in line with cures. Right now, I play CNJ as a DD caster instead of THM on endgame fights. They have the tools to stay in the fight. I would like to use my Ifrit's cudgel some day.
    Unless there are some uber gear to get wit. Companies or mog weapons for mages, thm is broke. Lvl 50 thm uses the whole mp to kill one single mob lvl 52! Then sit for 1-2min
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Unless there are some uber gear to get wit. Companies or mog weapons for mages, thm is broke. Lvl 50 thm uses the whole mp to kill one single mob lvl 52! Then sit for 1-2min
    I want to know what you are killing. I just ran Darkhold as THM and I solo level 52 monsters, by myself, in seconds. The skeleton room, I literally kill nearly the skeletons with ONE fire line combo and finish them off with another fire. THM are off the charts as far as damage goes. The ogre is killed before I even run out of mana, granted threat is something to be managed with him. Broke? No, unless you are referring to the awesome damage THM does.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klive View Post
    I want to know what you are killing. I just ran Darkhold as THM and I solo level 52 monsters, by myself, in seconds. The skeleton room, I literally kill nearly the skeletons with ONE fire line combo and finish them off with another fire. THM are off the charts as far as damage goes. The ogre is killed before I even run out of mana, granted threat is something to be managed with him. Broke? No, unless you are referring to the awesome damage THM does.
    I know thm's are not bad with party. Try to do some lvl 5 company quests and you will see. 15min to protect one npc with lvl 52 mobs showing one after another. Not elemental friendly. Impossible to solo. A quest is intended to be solo and you can't solo, to me it's broken.
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  6. #96
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    Lower the difficulty?
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    I know thm's are not bad with party. Try to do some lvl 5 company quests and you will see. 15min to protect one npc with lvl 52 mobs showing one after another. Not elemental friendly. Impossible to solo. A quest is intended to be solo and you can't solo, to me it's broken.
    this.
    quests shouldnt be endgame or instance supplements. they should be solo-small group friendly so you have things to do when not in endgame or not doing some thing of actual importance.

    the bottom line is that THM can put out some massive damage but at the cost of being a very slow paced class.
    high numbers dont always = fun. speed of service and quantity of activity very very often do.

    BTW, im noticing my CNJ has a pretty easy time keeping busy in all fields of gameplay. its much easier to solo as CNJ because there is less downtime, Good damage and much much better ways not to die lol. seems to put THM to shame.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Unless there are some uber gear to get wit. Companies or mog weapons for mages, thm is broke. Lvl 50 thm uses the whole mp to kill one single mob lvl 52! Then sit for 1-2min
    GROOOSS please tell me your exaggerating.

    i have noticed that i can only kill 1-2 groups of leve mobs (such as 1 group of 3 dodos) and then i have to rest a few mins. i hated it so a party i joined ended up PLing us for about 6 levels. made me not hate THM so much.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    We're already doing THM burns on Ifrit.
    i heard sanguine rite while tanking or some crap on THM is the way to go, correct?
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  10. #100
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post

    Again, stop wasting your MP on Thundaga.
    Well as a lvl 50 class you want to use your most power spell don't you ?

    Whats the point in having a spell/skill if its "not to be used"

    The whole point of Combos is to string them together.
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