Waved or Reduced MP cost for Magic combo's

[Firon]

Updated

After playing 1.20 THM I love it, but the MP cost for combo's is a bit ridiculous if you ask me. I feel that if melee get free TP for combo's it should be the same for mages with mp, or at least reduce the mp cost down to -25% for first and -50% for the second spell in the combo.

Right now the combo for Thunder 210MP> Thundara 378MP > Thundaga 714= 1133MP if this was at least reduced to 25% for the first spell and -50% for the second the spells the overall mp consumption would be equal to: 851MP. Also two step combos for the Thunder chain would end up 494MP.

Then for an combo with Fire 294 > Fira 504 > Firaga 714 = 1512MP, reducing Fira to 25% and Firara to 50% of the cost would make this combo total: 1029MP. Also an two step combo for Fire would be 672MP.

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[AdvancedWind]

Yep, agreed. Maybe not that much reduction, but at least some. 1/3 of our max MP for a single combo is a bit too much.

[Ricepudding]

+1 to this. I've posted about it in other threads as well, but it just feels crappy blowing through your whole mp pool doing pretty good damage, and then standing around with no great way to regen the mp other than to stand around during a fight x_x even the MP cooldowns don't do too much for a thaum.

[Delmontyb]

I just played around with magic combos and love them, I like the reduced casting time, but there should be balance if MP reduction comes into play. Perhaps not as much as suggested, but 1/3 reduction sounds good to me.

[ChiefCurrahee]

MP regen = TP gain

MP costs are high, but so if your damage output.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Catapult]

MP regen = TP gain

MP costs are high, but so if your damage output.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

True, but I want to be doing something. If DoW has a TP shortfall, they can still keep going. That, and TP is gain much quicker than MP regenerates.

It's feeling more like the "self-imploding" glass cannon of a mage rather than the "shatter if attacked" version.

[Cale_Imrik]

THM going all-out does more Damage than a melee, but the problem is long fights. Even conserving MP, a THM will probably be down to under 500MP within 5mins. 90% is way too much of a reduction, as a melee main, I'd be fine with THM having 1st spell 100% MP, 2nd 75%, 3rd 50% in combos. Would give them the option of taking it easy and conserving MP, while keeping up with melee DD, or going all out and being useless for a while.

[Albio]

MP regen = TP gain

MP costs are high, but so if your damage output.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

This is true, but you can gain enough TP in seconds to initiate another WS or Combo. Running out of MP on mage, you have to stand there for quite a while before you can nuke again. It's not balanced. If melee can spam combos and WS then mage should be able to spam nukes and combos as well. Especially since the damage is comparable. Melee aren't doing that much less than mage with combos. Once again, mage is gimped DPS. If mage was doing six or seven times the damage with a nuke combo as melee was with a WS combo then it would be one thing to have us sitting around for a minute or two waiting to nuke again. It would balance out in the long run, but right now, it's still SE <3 melee and </3 mage.

Edit:Also 90% reduction is too much imo, maybe 50% for the second and third spells.

[Rau]

It would balance out in the long run, but right now, it's still SE <3 ARC and </3 everything else.

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Fixed that for you.

[Lucifer]

SE might have designed this mp correlation with BRD in mind.
They might introduce some MP regen gear that would give some choices for mages.
They could invest in either higher damage or MP management.