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    Well the community wanted something similar to FFXI end game and that is what you got, headaches and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well the community wanted something similar to FFXI end game and that is what you got, headaches and all.
    Except it really wasn't anything like FF XI endgame or FF XI at all for that matter. Some things were similar but they mostly took the worst possible aspects of old school MMOs and lumped it all together and called it "Eureka". So no, people asking for more XI with their XIV did not get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Except it really wasn't anything like FF XI endgame or FF XI at all for that matter. Some things were similar but they mostly took the worst possible aspects of old school MMOs and lumped it all together and called it "Eureka". So no, people asking for more XI with their XIV did not get it.
    BA is just like original Dynamis to me. Which was one of the end game things you could do in Zilart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    BA is just like original Dynamis to me. Which was one of the end game things you could do in Zilart.
    BA is more like limbus than Dynamis, but let me remind you that neither of these piece of content were as tedious to enter as BA. You did enter them as a group (and not as individuals) and even if only one "alliance" was allowed in them at a time (at first), people did manage to come to an agreement and schedule their runs over the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    BA is more like limbus than Dynamis, but let me remind you that neither of these piece of content were as tedious to enter as BA. You did enter them as a group (and not as individuals) and even if only one "alliance" was allowed in them at a time (at first), people did manage to come to an agreement and schedule their runs over the week.
    You shouldn't have to "schedule" a BA instance almost like you would a wedding ceremony. If a group wants to do it they should be able to just do it. The portals should send all alliances / parties to their own BA instance. This is one of the problems with open world content. You create a claim system so first come first serve, and if everyone is ok with that (which most arn't) you create a wait in line system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    You shouldn't have to "schedule" a BA instance almost like you would a wedding ceremony. If a group wants to do it they should be able to just do it. The portals should send all alliances / parties to their own BA instance. This is one of the problems with open world content. You create a claim system so first come first serve, and if everyone is ok with that (which most arn't) you create a wait in line system.
    A)I'm not saying this is a good system, only that it isn't anything like FFXI. No systems in FFXI were as broken as this one (which is quite a feat because FFXI had some really weird stuff).
    B) it isn't open world content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    B) it isn't open world content.
    It may not be Open World since it's an instance locked inside another instance to be fair. But it does have the same problems that most open world stuff has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well the community wanted something similar to FFXI end game and that is what you got, headaches and all.
    I keep seeing this brought out but I ask, "Where is this community?"

    I really don't hear too many people wanting to go back to the FFXI days and all the problems it had. If you want that experience, go play it. You'll be back within a week.

    There's a reason that playstyle isn't around anymore. No one has time for it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]