BA shows that we fail as a Community (big time)

[Rockette]

Not waiting for the entire server to show up.
Find it, kill it.

This doesn't make any sense though. Have you ever tried to solo a Stormblood A rank or S rank? Even with a group of 8 it takes forever.

[RitsukoSonoda]

This doesn't make any sense though. Have you ever tried to solo a Stormblood A rank or S rank? Even with a group of 8 it takes forever.

However its quite peaceful before all the lounge lizards waiting around for someone else to pop them arrive.

[Dyvid]

Well the community wanted something similar to FFXI end game and that is what you got, headaches and all.

[Vahlnir]

Well the community wanted something similar to FFXI end game and that is what you got, headaches and all.

Except it really wasn't anything like FF XI endgame or FF XI at all for that matter. Some things were similar but they mostly took the worst possible aspects of old school MMOs and lumped it all together and called it "Eureka". So no, people asking for more XI with their XIV did not get it.

[Burningskull]

Except it really wasn't anything like FF XI endgame or FF XI at all for that matter. Some things were similar but they mostly took the worst possible aspects of old school MMOs and lumped it all together and called it "Eureka". So no, people asking for more XI with their XIV did not get it.

BA is just like original Dynamis to me. Which was one of the end game things you could do in Zilart.

[Stanelis]

BA is just like original Dynamis to me. Which was one of the end game things you could do in Zilart.

BA is more like limbus than Dynamis, but let me remind you that neither of these piece of content were as tedious to enter as BA. You did enter them as a group (and not as individuals) and even if only one "alliance" was allowed in them at a time (at first), people did manage to come to an agreement and schedule their runs over the week.

[Burningskull]

BA is more like limbus than Dynamis, but let me remind you that neither of these piece of content were as tedious to enter as BA. You did enter them as a group (and not as individuals) and even if only one "alliance" was allowed in them at a time (at first), people did manage to come to an agreement and schedule their runs over the week.

You shouldn't have to "schedule" a BA instance almost like you would a wedding ceremony. If a group wants to do it they should be able to just do it. The portals should send all alliances / parties to their own BA instance. This is one of the problems with open world content. You create a claim system so first come first serve, and if everyone is ok with that (which most arn't) you create a wait in line system.

[Deceptus]

Well the community wanted something similar to FFXI end game and that is what you got, headaches and all.

I keep seeing this brought out but I ask, "Where is this community?"

I really don't hear too many people wanting to go back to the FFXI days and all the problems it had. If you want that experience, go play it. You'll be back within a week.

There's a reason that playstyle isn't around anymore. No one has time for it.

[Eldevern]

The problem of BA is not only a matter of JP vs EU/NA playerbase:

Ok we assume everyone go on Discord, but what happens if there are 57 players? One remains outside.

Portal snipers are a problem but BA design is also a problem.

Several people asked Raid with more players than 24 but the reality for someone who is in FFXIV since ARR is 8 players for raids are already a problem for statics (I've seen a lot of drama and uncomplete teams). Then we have asked raids for less players. No reply.

People who are not interested to go on Discord maybe just think : ok what if we have to spend two hours organizing team to play actually ten minutes (it happens for raids and extrems). Does it worth it? What if there are more than 56 available players and less than 112? Who will sacrifice himself?

There's no jugdment. Just few afterthought.

[XiXiQ]

SE gave you the way to avoid these "snipers". Organise a group and make sure you have stabalizers. Don't hang about until it's free-for-all time, because then you're in a crapshoot with everyone else, and have no special claim on anything.
Yes, they are hard to get. Entry is supposed to be difficult as well, remember?