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  1. #51
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If content doesn't inspire people to work together then it's the design that has failed. 24 man raids do just fine in getting a big group of total strangers to co-operate and teach each other.
    24 man raids for the most part only work because they're queueable in duty finder. The primary botch I see on BA is the way they chose to implement entrance with the whole scattered random portals thing. Aside from that it's just a higher chance of getting a random idiot because the player count is higher. However its a risk on any duty even with premades unless you only invite people you know specifically beforehand. I still see instances of titan EX where all but myself and 1 other person get launched off the platform on the first landslide.
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  2. #52
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    24 man raids for the most part only work because they're queueable in duty finder. The primary botch I see on BA is the way they chose to implement entrance with the whole scattered random portals thing. Aside from that it's just a higher chance of getting a random idiot because the player count is higher. However its a risk on any duty even with premades unless you only invite people you know specifically beforehand. I still see instances of titan EX where all but myself and 1 other person get launched off the platform on the first landslide.
    honestly running BA would be a complete joke if it wasn't for the resurrection restriction debuff. Maybe that's how they'll eventually nerf it, just remove that debuff and the average eureka players strategy of clumsily dps while standing in literally every aoe will get you through
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  3. #53
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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    I'm doing a BA pre-made, and someone got sniped. And the random that entered instant left.
    I hope this kind of behavior is reportable, cause it's clearly detrimental and of not good will.

    We are super nice and polite, we invite to the discord. Yet players keep doing that, just because they can. Is it right? I feel sad for the one that didn't get in, we did strive for 1~2h to get everything together =/.
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  4. #54
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    Wizel Balan
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    "When the chips are down, these civilized people will eat each other. You'll see."
    -Joker
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  5. #55
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    I'm doing a BA pre-made, and someone got sniped. And the random that entered instant left.
    I hope this kind of behavior is reportable, cause it's clearly detrimental and of not good will.
    Not reportable unless they said somewhere that they were doing it maliciously.

    Perhaps they were just ignorant of what they were doing and didn't know the ramifications of leaving.

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon's Razor
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  6. #56
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    Wizel Balan
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    I think they should remove the "no rez" debuff in the instance when you are not on the bosses. Only allow raises from the Logo's action, maybe lower that from 99 uses to like 3 or 5. When the boss is up and the fight starts no raising can happen outside of Rememberance, that way a wipe is still possible on AV and Ozma but not as bad on doing trash and lower bosses. I think that would be a good solution for making it easier but not super easy.
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    Last edited by Wizel; 02-23-2019 at 01:29 PM.

  7. #57
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    LeoLupinos's Avatar
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Not reportable unless they said somewhere that they were doing it maliciously.

    Perhaps they were just ignorant of what they were doing and didn't know the ramifications of leaving.

    Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon's Razor
    There's no thing as ignorance when everyone had to agree to BA's difficulty to unlock it. We did communicate, but he just waited for the red portal and entered anyway.
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  8. #58
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    We did communicate, but he just waited for the red portal and entered anyway.
    Red portals are fair game for anyone to enter (IIRC). He / she did nothing reportable there.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  9. #59
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Red portals are fair game for anyone to enter (IIRC). He / she did nothing reportable there.
    I hope it become reportable in the future then. Cause this is not right.
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If content doesn't inspire people to work together then it's the design that has failed. 24 man raids do just fine in getting a big group of total strangers to co-operate and teach each other.
    This is pretty much my view of it. BA hasn't really shown the community failing so much as it simply has limits of cooperative ability that devs either forgot to take into account or are unsure of how to take it into account. Either way, it's the creators of the content--not the consumers--who are at fault for the issues surrounding BA and the lack of consideration toward what few players are willing to drag their way through the four hells of Eureka in order to put up with running it.
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