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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    IMO if you need an guide or watch a video to be able to do it is a design fail, sry... but it takes all the fun out it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    IMO if you need an guide or watch a video to be able to do it is a design fail, sry... but it takes all the fun out it.
    So true, where is the fun of a fight you don't have to analyse why and how you get your ass handed to yourself. A video spoil everything the fight have to offer, you sure get your win faster but you won't get better at the game if you have to play with your trainning wheel for ever.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    So true, where is the fun of a fight you don't have to analyse why and how you get your ass handed to yourself. A video spoil everything the fight have to offer, you sure get your win faster but you won't get better at the game if you have to play with your trainning wheel for ever.
    Dont get me wrong i rly do see why it sucks to die there... but... the one time i actually used guides for primals was... a letdown, it helps me like 0 and it takes ALL the fun, its cheating and the victory feels not earned....


    the system just sucks and at least the delevel gotte be removed - but they can keep the permadeath.


    And ppl dont get that it sadly takes a permade party as else you wont get HALF the needed players, its less about leeching then the fact that you just dont get the ppl. Its the same on prefarming stuff... >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Dont get me wrong i rly do see why it sucks to die there... but... the one time i actually used guides for primals was... a letdown, it helps me like 0 and it takes ALL the fun, its cheating and the victory feels not earned....


    the system just sucks and at least the delevel gotte be removed - but they can keep the permadeath.


    And ppl dont get that it sadly takes a permade party as else you wont get HALF the needed players, its less about leeching then the fact that you just dont get the ppl. Its the same on prefarming stuff... >_>
    Yeah, I'd been hyped for a hard dungeon with news bosses that don't get spoiled by an easy as cake normal mode, asking to be extra careful cause of perma death, but the delevel + how hard it is to actualy even get in, not even mentionning having to go trough the whole Eureka, preventing my late birds friends to come with me make it that I simply don't even want to give it a try...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    IMO if you need an guide or watch a video to be able to do it is a design fail, sry... but it takes all the fun out it.
    I don't call it a design fail. I call it a player base fail. You cant really apply that to BA because we also already have a very large number of players that can't even figure out how to play their job class or do a basic 4 person duty without watching a tutorial video on youtube. If you insist on trying to spin this as a design fail on SE's part then the fail is catering content for the lazy players that don't want to use their brain.
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