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  1. #171
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    Vnolan's Avatar
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Why not? If they're going to allow premades they could make it harder.
    It wasn't designed for premades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    Again, the dungeon mechanically isn't difficult by any stretch. And again, I never said anything about premades and difficulty. I responded to someone saying they wanted to make the dungeon easier
    It's not difficult, but they shouldn't make it easier because you want more challenging content? Doesn't make any sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    What is the point of your posts, what are you trying to argue here.
    If you want to argue for its difficulty to be maintained, you can't use a premade since you aren't doing it at its intended difficulty.
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  2. #172
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    I've cleared it 4 times in premades. The no raise thing is largely a non issue, and again, as I said, its the only thing in BA that gives it a challenge. In fact, I think coupled with the Sacrifice gamble its quite an interesting quirk.
    What is the point of your posts, what are you trying to argue here.
    yes you've cleared it 4 times with premades
    but how many progs did you do
    since if there wasnt a no rez debuff it would really only take one run to do it no risk besides black hole take one single run possibly killing the content faster
    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    It wasn't designed for premades.
    if it wasn't design for premades it wouldn't allow people in party to enter a portal
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  3. #173
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    Rockette's Avatar
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    Rocket Teira
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    yes you've cleared it 4 times with premades
    but how many progs did you do
    since if there wasnt a no rez debuff it would really only take one run to do it no risk besides black hole take one single run possibly killing the content faster
    2 prog wipes on ozma then the kill on the 3rd. Absolutely agree, the content does not need to be made easier at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    if it wasn't design for premades it wouldn't allow people in party to enter a portal
    ^
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  4. #174
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    Moshimoshikami's Avatar
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    Kage Zanarca
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    Raiden
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    Weaver Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Janhyua View Post
    Things to change

    1. Change BA into 24 man raid instead and lower the difficulty
    2. delete support fate

    this allow player to want to farm frag can do so while leaving the premade alone

    and also allow people to do BA anytime they want rather then murdering and cursing each other in the game

    this is not content this is making chaos and toxicity the dev has failed to keep the peace on this one even if its the player fault but it is up to the dev to make sure thing like this does not happen in the first place....

    The best way for protection is prevention
    Totally agree with that. If the content requires a 56 men discord to join in, it's a failure. They should nerf it so anyone can enjoy it.

    And btw, it was not designed for 56 premade, it was designed to play with the people you meet in the instance.
    You are not expected to massively jump from instance to instance to form a 56 players team.
    In my eyes those kills are not even legit because they bypass the greatest difficulty of BA...
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    Last edited by Moshimoshikami; 02-23-2019 at 05:00 PM.

  5. #175
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Did my first attempt at Ozma today with a clear/farm group. Wiped at 15% with time to spare before enrage because acceleration bombs are hard.

    The fight really isn't that bad overall, but having a mechanic that punishes everybody for one person's mistake is pretty awful with so many players involved and is probably the biggest barrier to clears overall because it often coincides with AoE damage that can potentially cause a wipe if the healers don't top everyone off immediately.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 02-23-2019 at 05:42 PM.

  6. #176
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    Celenia's Avatar
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    Celenia Luna
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami View Post
    In my eyes those kills are not even legit because they bypass the greatest difficulty of BA...

    The greatest of what ? When you can hardly go in. This will not be an issue if EVERYONE in hydatos can go in. 144 man can go in. But nope, only 35% of you can get in and enjoy the content. While we are outside eating dirt and become slave of support fate (without significant reward).
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  7. #177
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    Moshimoshikami's Avatar
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    Kage Zanarca
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    Raiden
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    Weaver Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Celenia View Post
    The greatest of what ? When you can hardly go in. This will not be an issue if EVERYONE in hydatos can go in. 144 man can go in. But nope, only 35% of you can get in and enjoy the content. While we are outside eating dirt and become slave of support fate (without significant reward).
    Well I think we share the same opinion. I was not able to get in either because want to play the content the way it was intended to be played.

    Imo, the ovni fate should grant randomly access to BA like the bunny fate. this would work in 2 steps.
    Players get either a blue or a red key. As many blue keys are distributed as the number of portals. The other disttributed keys are red.
    1. If someone get a blue key he/she can enter the portal ASAP. No fight because there are as many blue keys as portals.
    2. If someone get a red key, he/she has to wait 4min until portals stabilize and turn red.
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  8. #178
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    if it wasn't design for premades it wouldn't allow people in party to enter a portal
    No it was just SE not expecting many players being as they are, it surely was meant for friends being able to go together... or for forming a full party before entering.
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  10. #179
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    IMO if you need an guide or watch a video to be able to do it is a design fail, sry... but it takes all the fun out it.
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  11. #180
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    Nariel's Avatar
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    IMO if you need an guide or watch a video to be able to do it is a design fail, sry... but it takes all the fun out it.
    So true, where is the fun of a fight you don't have to analyse why and how you get your ass handed to yourself. A video spoil everything the fight have to offer, you sure get your win faster but you won't get better at the game if you have to play with your trainning wheel for ever.
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