Please no more Eureka!

[Metalwrath]

The same 144 people playing the worst content ever released in XIV doesn't represent a playerbase.

The fact that i can go into any Eureka and join into several different nearly full instances of the same Eureka proves you're full of crap.
People regulary check other instances to see if certain nm's are open because of items.You go into Eureka and there's plenty of new players to Eureka in those instances asking questions about quests etc.
I think people get the message that you despise Eureka but dont make lies to win arguments.
Eureka has been succesful wheter you like it or not.

[Vahlnir]

The fact that i can go into any Eureka and join into several different nearly full instances of the same Eureka proves you're full of crap.
People regulary check other instances to see if certain nm's are open because of items.You go into Eureka and there's plenty of new players to Eureka in those instances asking questions about quests etc.
I think people get the message that you despise Eureka but dont make lies to win arguments.
Eureka has been succesful wheter you like it or not.

Successful from a numbers standpoint I have no doubt. But it hasn't been as well received as you may think. SE sorta coerced people into doing this content by locking certain rewards behind it. Not quite as many people would probably be doing it otherwise. Sure, no one made us do this content but there was no other way to get our relics.

[Leanna]

Eureka has been succesful wheter you like it or not.

So Anemos had 40% or 50% participation, people who bothered to finish Pyros is around 10%, and there is no way to know how many people bothered to level in Eureka because SE bribe them with hairstyles/furniture/emotes/minions and who bothered to be done with Hydratos, which at the end will be less than 4%.

When more than 90% of the players who bothered to try Anemos can't be arsed to get to Hydratos, maybe that shows the content isn't successful. But hey, success. Not to mention most people who finish the relic in Hydratos absolutely hates Eureka, Eureka is far from being successful when even those who are bribed to do it, hate it. And people who do it for "fun" is less than the people who do Savage.

[Soupa]

So Anemos had 40% or 50% participation, people who bothered to finish Pyros is around 10%, and there is no way to know how many people bothered to level in Eureka because SE bribe them with hairstyles/furniture/emotes/minions and who bothered to be done with Hydratos, which at the end will be less than 4%.

When more than 90% of the players who bothered to try Anemos can't be arsed to get to Hydratos, maybe that shows the content isn't successful. But hey, success. Not to mention most people who finish the relic in Hydratos absolutely hates Eureka, Eureka is far from being successful when even those who are bribed to do it, hate it. And people who do it for "fun" is less than the people who do Savage.

Bold statement but can you prove it?

[Leanna]

Bold statement but can you prove it?

People posted participation % here, and it shows only the people who got to max level, not people who finished relics (different people, not no life people doing 13 relics). The numbers are there for whoever wants to look at them.

The same 100 people crying on the forums dont either.

Look at the % of people who dropped from Eureka in each map and use your brain.

Yet, these numbers are still higher than those that did HW relic over the span of more than 2 years. You can't change that fact.

Yet you deliberately forget Eureka has hairstyles/emotes/furniture/minions/mounts, while HW relic doesn't.

Once there is a way to know how many different players finished at least one relic, you will be able to talk about being more successful than HW.

[Crushnight]

Once there is a way to know how many different players finished at least one relic, you will be able to talk about being more successful than HW.

Look you need to change the argument to Is Eureka relic weapon questline better than HW relic questline as you cannot compare them any other way Eureka as a whole has more to it than just the relic whereas the HW one doesn't

[Alucard135]

Yet you deliberately forget Eureka has hairstyles/emotes/furniture/minions/mounts, while HW relic doesn't.

I didn't forget that. But every old content used in the previous relic has its rewards too. You can get a mount if you wasted light farming on doing EX trials. You can get bardings and minions if you did boss fates for the fate grinding part. You have glamour from dungeon gears that you can run 100 times for tomes. You don't have all of those yet, so you might consider doing that in HW relic steps to get the rest of the weapons to

Once there is a way to know how many different players finished at least one relic, you will be able to talk about being more successful than HW.

SE has that information and they say it's a success. I'll take their words on it over yours unless you show me the numbers for your claims. (P.S. the minion doesn't show who got the lux version of the relic).

[Leanna]

SE has that information and they say it's a success. I'll take their words on it over yours unless you show me the numbers for your claims. (P.S. the minion doesn't show who got the lux version of the relic).

The numbers we got and that everyone can check says otherwise, in the thread about "What will happen with BA in one or two years" you have the numbers, and they have been posted here several times, if you decide to ignore them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Soupa]

People posted participation % here, and it shows only the people who got to max level, not people who finished relics (different people, not no life people doing 13 relics). The numbers are there for whoever wants to look at them.

You’re forgetting that every relics participation rates are low and that this relic is on par with how most relics go in terms of participation. on top of that this relic is at a disadvantage for just finishing and anima being out 2 years and relic 4. We have 1 more story patch and then a huge gap of nothing after. In my opinion this was the most interesting relic to do out of the 3 and due to eurekas nature of wanting you to take breaks and come back when you feel like it, plus BA is a thing now. I feel like this will end up being the most successful relic when this expansion is at its end.

[Leanna]

You’re forgetting that every relics participation rates are low and that this relic is on par with how most relics go in terms of participation. on top of that this relic is at a disadvantage for just finishing and anima being out 2 years and relic 4. We have 1 more story patch and then a huge gap of nothing after. In my opinion this was the most interesting relic to do out of the 3 and due to eurekas nature of wanting you to take breaks and come back when you feel like it, plus BA is a thing now. I feel like this will end up being the most successful relic when this expansion is at its end.

And everything is and will be speculation until there is a way to know for the numbers for real, but I guess Eureka nerfed into oblivion is more appealing than HW. Too bad the only relics worth doing are DRK, WAR and BLM.