Please no more Eureka!

[Leanna]

Yes, it lasts a few weeks to the point that I see full instances in Anemos and people that are level 60.

The same 144 people playing the worst content ever released in XIV doesn't represent a playerbase.

What TwistedTea was asking for is "content that keeps players engaged more than a month". For that request, Eureka is indeed a worthy option (arbitrary weekly restriction excluded) exactly because it's big and because it has a lot of different rewards here and there, mainly, the Relic.

But it comes down to "being engaged more than a month" not fully compatible with "casual content".

Problem is, Eureka is just bad game design, a bad copy of an awful game design from XI that any F2P MMO in the market have done better, the problem is the quality of the content released and that people doesn't want to support bad quality content. SE did nothing to improve Eureka.

[Alucard135]

The same 144 people playing the worst content ever released in XIV doesn't represent a playerbase.

Again, the numbers show more people are playing it than previous relic quests. How many times do I have to say that lol?

This is what I see that became of this thread now.

[Leanna]

Again, the numbers show more people are playing it than previous relic quests. How many times do I have to say that lol?

You don't even have the numbers of people who finished the relic, just people who got to max level, and you keep forgetting SE is bribing people with hairstyles, emotes, minions and housing items, when you know how many DIFFERENT players finished at least ONE relic, then we talk, because one no life person doing 13 relics doesn't mean 13 people have done Eureka for relics.

It doesn't even mean they enjoy the time they pass inside or in the others eureka, but hey look there is 144 people in the whole datacenter in anemos, must be succesfull.

IKR? I have a friend doing Hydratos and he absolutely hates Eureka and can't wait to get the relic and never set foot there again, but hey, success!

[Alucard135]

You don't even have the numbers of people who finished the relic, just people who got to max level, and you keep forgetting SE is bribing people with hairstyles, emotes, minions and housing items, when you know how many DIFFERENT players finished at least ONE relic, then we talk, because one no life person doing 13 relics doesn't mean 13 people have done Eureka for relics.

But we have the number of people who played through Eureka. Fun fact, the relic isn't everything in this game. I know someone that got all the relics for all their classes back in Anemos and still went back there because he could get stuff to sell.
If you haven't done so and since you love the previous relic style, go acquire all the relics in ARR and HW. That's a content that you enjoy (which will 100% die if you get all the relics unlike Eureka lol).

[Nariel]

The same 144 people playing the worst content ever released in XIV doesn't represent a playerbase.



Problem is, Eureka is just bad game design, a bad copy of an awful game design from XI that any F2P MMO in the market have done better, the problem is the quality of the content released and that people doesn't want to support bad quality content. SE did nothing to improve Eureka.

It doesn't even mean they enjoy the time they pass inside or in the others eureka, but hey look there is 144 people in the whole datacenter in anemos, must be succesfull.

[Metalwrath]

The same 144 people playing the worst content ever released in XIV doesn't represent a playerbase.

The fact that i can go into any Eureka and join into several different nearly full instances of the same Eureka proves you're full of crap.
People regulary check other instances to see if certain nm's are open because of items.You go into Eureka and there's plenty of new players to Eureka in those instances asking questions about quests etc.
I think people get the message that you despise Eureka but dont make lies to win arguments.
Eureka has been succesful wheter you like it or not.

[Vahlnir]

The fact that i can go into any Eureka and join into several different nearly full instances of the same Eureka proves you're full of crap.
People regulary check other instances to see if certain nm's are open because of items.You go into Eureka and there's plenty of new players to Eureka in those instances asking questions about quests etc.
I think people get the message that you despise Eureka but dont make lies to win arguments.
Eureka has been succesful wheter you like it or not.

Successful from a numbers standpoint I have no doubt. But it hasn't been as well received as you may think. SE sorta coerced people into doing this content by locking certain rewards behind it. Not quite as many people would probably be doing it otherwise. Sure, no one made us do this content but there was no other way to get our relics.

[Leanna]

Eureka has been succesful wheter you like it or not.

So Anemos had 40% or 50% participation, people who bothered to finish Pyros is around 10%, and there is no way to know how many people bothered to level in Eureka because SE bribe them with hairstyles/furniture/emotes/minions and who bothered to be done with Hydratos, which at the end will be less than 4%.

When more than 90% of the players who bothered to try Anemos can't be arsed to get to Hydratos, maybe that shows the content isn't successful. But hey, success. Not to mention most people who finish the relic in Hydratos absolutely hates Eureka, Eureka is far from being successful when even those who are bribed to do it, hate it. And people who do it for "fun" is less than the people who do Savage.

[Soupa]

So Anemos had 40% or 50% participation, people who bothered to finish Pyros is around 10%, and there is no way to know how many people bothered to level in Eureka because SE bribe them with hairstyles/furniture/emotes/minions and who bothered to be done with Hydratos, which at the end will be less than 4%.

When more than 90% of the players who bothered to try Anemos can't be arsed to get to Hydratos, maybe that shows the content isn't successful. But hey, success. Not to mention most people who finish the relic in Hydratos absolutely hates Eureka, Eureka is far from being successful when even those who are bribed to do it, hate it. And people who do it for "fun" is less than the people who do Savage.

Bold statement but can you prove it?

[Leanna]

Bold statement but can you prove it?

People posted participation % here, and it shows only the people who got to max level, not people who finished relics (different people, not no life people doing 13 relics). The numbers are there for whoever wants to look at them.

The same 100 people crying on the forums dont either.

Look at the % of people who dropped from Eureka in each map and use your brain.

Yet, these numbers are still higher than those that did HW relic over the span of more than 2 years. You can't change that fact.

Yet you deliberately forget Eureka has hairstyles/emotes/furniture/minions/mounts, while HW relic doesn't.

Once there is a way to know how many different players finished at least one relic, you will be able to talk about being more successful than HW.