Please no more Eureka!

[Sigma-Astra]

I never once said that HW relic steps were hard. They were very easy but BORING to do and took so much time that even after the nerf I didn't bother doing another one after I got my first, while I have already two Eureka relics.

The Eureka relics can be absolutely mind-numbing and boring for some people too, so what's your point with that emphasis honestly...?

[Alucard135]

The Eureka relics can be absolutely mind-numbing and boring for some people too, so what's your point with that emphasis honestly...?

I'm emphasizing that in my reply because the one I replied to has mistakenly assumed that I'm comparing Eureka and previous relic in terms of hardness, and that was never a point I raised. Our point for preferring Eureka over previous relic style was time and enjoyment, not difficulty. And I know there are people who don't like Eureka and find it boring. But you don't see those who enjoy it asking for other content to be removed just like some here who are even asking that no rewards should be placed there.

[Sigma-Astra]

I'm emphasizing that in my reply because the one I replied to has mistakenly assumed that I'm comparing Eureka and previous relic in terms of hardness, and that was never a point I raised. Our point for preferring Eureka over previous relic style was time and enjoyment, not difficulty. And I know there are people who don't like Eureka and find it boring. But you don't see those who enjoy it asking for other content to be removed just like some here who are even asking that no rewards should be placed there.

Well, no, I simply asked that the relic should have had the option for people to do it in Eureka or do it the ARR/HW way. I think having options could have solved a lot of salt from people.

[Alucard135]

Well, no, I simply asked that the relic should have had the option for people to do it in Eureka or do it the ARR/HW way. I think having options could have solved a lot of salt from people.

I know you asked for that. And that's a fine alternative. I even said I'm perfectly fine with the relic being taken outside of Eureka and being made available with another mean as long as it's not the previous formula in ARR and HW. But even if we got that, you'll still see some complain about any rewards in Eureka.

But will SE actually do this alternative? Short answer is no.

If we assumed both alternatives gave the same weapon, then lorewise it would be impossible to explain how two weapons made from different materials and different zones are identical. Materials found in Eureka zones are nowhere in Eorzea. So devs won't probably bother by that option. And we already have people complaining about Eureka story.

If both had different forms or just recolored versions but the same stats, then you still won't hear the end of it from those who want to get everything. And if one looked better than the other, then that's another can of worms open. And also, SE won't bother in doing two different designs.

If both are completely different in both form and stats, then that's even worse if one alternative is Bis compared to the other.

So I don't see SE going with that route.

[Sigma-Astra]

I know you asked for that. And that's a fine alternative. I even said I'm perfectly fine with the relic being taken outside of Eureka and being made available with another mean as long as it's not the previous formula in ARR and HW. But even if we got that, you'll still see some complain about any rewards in Eureka.

But will SE actually do this alternative? Short answer is no.

If we assumed both alternatives gave the same weapon, then lorewise it would be impossible to explain how two weapons made from different materials and different zones are identical. Materials found in Eureka zones are no where in Eorzea. So devs won't probably bother by that option. And we already have people complaining about Eureka story.

If both had different forms or just recolored versions but the same stats, then you still won't hear the end of it from those who want to get everything. And if one looked better than the other, then that's another can of worms open. And also, SE won't bother in doing two different designs.

If both are completely diffent in both form and stats, then that's even worse if one alternative is Bis compared to the other.

So I don't see SE going with that route.

There's no good reason to use "lore" as an excuse to not even try and incorporate a second option for other players. Where was the lore for a flying T-rex or flying elephant? Out the window, that's where it was. It wouldn't be impossible to explain at all as the devs can literally turn anything they want to fit within the lore somehow, and have done so with Ivalice heavily. Eorzea is a magical world full of the unexplained still. Shoot, if lore was so important, we wouldn't have weird events like Yokai Watch and GARO then as they have NOTHING to do with Eorzean lore as a whole. Lore only matters when the devs say it matters practically.

As for different forms or variations, it could just be the same weapon formed by different materials. Nothing more or less than that. The weight of the voices outraged by wanting to get everything still won't even come close towards the amount of weight people have right now in not wanting to do the Eureka relic because it's not like the ARR/HW phases.

They should try, because honestly, what would they have to lose with offering both.

[Leanna]

I'm emphasizing that in my reply because the one I replied to has mistakenly assumed that I'm comparing Eureka and previous relic in terms of hardness, and that was never a point I raised. Our point for preferring Eureka over previous relic style was time and enjoyment, not difficulty. And I know there are people who don't like Eureka and find it boring. But you don't see those who enjoy it asking for other content to be removed just like some here who are even asking that no rewards should be placed there.

But other content doesn't stop SE from making other content, Eureka does.
You can do an ARR relic in two weeks while totally playing casually, the HW's one takes a bit longer but not that much. And as TwistedTea said, those relics doesn't have as MANY rewards as Eureka does, Eureka does have a crap ton of rewards to bribe people to do it and still less than 5% of the community bothered with it, ARR and HW relics are more popular than the Eureka ones.

And all this "BiS" nonsense is nonsense, unless you have the NEED to have a "BiS" relic for a few leveling dungeons in 5.0 Lol
Eureka isn't worth a fancy glamour (fancy only for DRK/WAR/BLM)