Gender locked race?

[cicatriz313]

Wasn't the concept art for Viera shown simply as a "we considered this, but instead we went with au'ra" rather than a "this is viera, it is coming, hold us accountable to it"?

[Penthea]

Wasn't the concept art for Viera shown simply as a "we considered this, but instead we went with au'ra" rather than a "this is viera, it is coming, hold us accountable to it"?

If that's the case then that was an incredibly stupid move by SE because by doing this they set themselves up to have a huge amount of players disappointed in them. If they were already sure that they weren't going to have viera, then they should have said nothing about them.

[redcurrant18]

Make bad decisions, expect bad results. I won’t stick around if they go onstage to reveal another cat race and no male Viera. If they for some reason decide to still be coy about this, then I’m gonna be coy about buying Shadowbringers until I see what I want. The people who are into mods might not be affected by this that much, but since I don’t want to bother with that nonsense if there’s no male Viera officially released, then I’ll have no way to play as one. No one should have to do this for content that was teased years in advance to only be backstabbed now.

[cicatriz313]

https://www.dualshockers.com/viera-f...cept-revealed/ Oh yeah, it was just concept art to show off creative ideas from the art team at a random FATE event in Japan. They also showed different concept ideas for the au'ra in the same panel.

[jameseoakes]

https://www.dualshockers.com/viera-f...cept-revealed/ Oh yeah, it was just concept art to show off creative ideas from the art team at a random FATE event in Japan. They also showed different concept ideas for the au'ra in the same panel.

That art work has haunted them for a long time, which is a shame as it is interesting to see the design process.

Though given design work on male was being done at an early stage I don't get why they would not follow it up. That said I don't really get any of the design and lore decisions with the Veria we have seen so far.

[WhiteArchmage]

And yoshida has commented that he didn't really want to show everyone the Viera concept art because of exactly what is happening now.

I'm not saying SE doesn't shoulder some blame for why people are angry about it, but they shouldn't be held hostage just because people are angry about something. In the end it is SE's decision to make, just like it was their decision to make Blue Mage as a limited job even though they knew it would make people angry too. People in this thread continue to grossly overstate the blowback and impact this will cause if it happens.

And it IS our decision to stop supporting a company that doesn't do right by its playerbase. You seem to be under the impression that people are saying that SE's stock will go down further than it did with 1.0 when most are only speaking for themselves. I personally support that if they do something as astoundingly dumb as gender-locking Dancer (which would be even harder to do development-wise since they'd have to block you from using the job if you Fantasia to male, so they'd have to actively be <kupo> to do it), I'll cancel my sub right there and then, not to mention I haven't pre-ordered ShB until Tokyo Fan Fest because I want to know I'm getting my money's worth, be it with Dancer as a playable job and/or male Viera.

But Yoshi-P said... Must we point to Alleo's signature about housing? Which, I may remind, the timer was only instituted after player blowback (And that whole "Personal housing will be separate from FC housing!").
But we can't take the artwork for granted... Well, no but it does point out that they were actively working on it and it's not making a whole bunch of assets from scratch.
But there's no way everyone will like the final design... So since not everyone will be content, then no one should? Even the people who are ok with (what we assume about) the Hrothgar think it's off to have two gender-locked races.

And even if the official forums don't represent the majority of the fanbase, it does represent quite a few. They're talking about this in English Forums, French and Japanese (I don't read German, can't know it it's an issue there, too), on Reddit, on JP Twitter! It may not be the controversy surrounding, say, EA after Star Wars Battlefront II, but it's not as small as you make it out to be.

[Tharne]

Guess all those Concept-Cars are stupid moves from car companies then, wait no, people who see them don't go crazy when they can't have it because they know they will probably never be released.
Same logic applies to Concept Arts because it is just that, a concept, not bound by anything between creators and consumers.

[Lauront]

https://www.dualshockers.com/viera-f...cept-revealed/ Oh yeah, it was just concept art to show off creative ideas from the art team at a random FATE event in Japan. They also showed different concept ideas for the au'ra in the same panel.

A good idea in that case would be to say "we're bringing Viera but take the concept art with a pinch of salt".

[cicatriz313]

Except at that point they WEREN'T bringing Viera. That's the point.

[Lauront]

Except at that point they WEREN'T bringing Viera. That's the point.

Dur. I meant when they announced them.

In fact, they could have done it any time over the years when the topic came up ("if we ever brought in Viera..."), much like how they dealt with BLU being difficult to implement. The question of which other race would be added is not a new one and Viera were expected for 5.0. They've had ample time to disown that concept art.