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    Wasn't the concept art for Viera shown simply as a "we considered this, but instead we went with au'ra" rather than a "this is viera, it is coming, hold us accountable to it"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Wasn't the concept art for Viera shown simply as a "we considered this, but instead we went with au'ra" rather than a "this is viera, it is coming, hold us accountable to it"?
    If that's the case then that was an incredibly stupid move by SE because by doing this they set themselves up to have a huge amount of players disappointed in them. If they were already sure that they weren't going to have viera, then they should have said nothing about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Your views of the matter are so twisted. some blame for why people are angry about it? What?
    So I should have used majority instead of some.
    If the concept art was really such a taboo for Yoshida then he should never have shown the concept art in the first place. It's almost as though being transparent with your playerbase implies you're committing yourself to what you're showing them, alternatively be transparent all the way and say, out right, it will never be used
    Yoshida often makes it a point to never commit strong language towards NOT doing something, because things can always change. He has been incredibly transparent when it comes to male Viera, such as flat out saying he would probably do a male only race equivalent as a counterpart to viera, or after showing concept art of viera he still claimed the males looked too cute. People just don't like that he held those beliefs and so refuse to give those comments any merit or consideration.
    If he showed it to us then he needs to grow up as a person and as a professional and deal with it.
    That's hilarious. No one is saying he shouldn't "deal with it" if it comes to backlash against the race. But as a professional, and the director of the game, if he chooses to do one thing, that's his choice. He doesn't need to kowtow to the playerbase just because he decided to go a different direction over something as trivial as a player race.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Being held hostage? That's a massive overstatement. It's not like people are unsubbing in protest, or intentionally creating problems in the game to get SE's attention.
    You clearly haven't read through a lot of this thread (I don't blame you). Plenty of people have threatened to unsub if they don't get what they want. One individual even demanded Yoshida should resign if they don't get bunny men.
    But then I never said SE WAS being held hostage, I was stating it because plenty of individuals here have acted like they SHOULD be. That they should be absolutely required to do something just because of some concept art, that if they don't deliver on that it'd be such a huge negative to the game (it wouldn't be).
    What you're labelling as extreme behaviour is actually very tame.
    I'm labelling it as an extreme over-reaction to something that absolutely won't be as big of an issue as many here seem to imply. If Viera don't get males, people will be upset and stamp their feet and that's it. Yoshida will probably be pestered about it during some Q&A maybe, and that's it. He may add them later, who knows.

    The forums exist for feedback and players saying they want male viera is feedback. And it's not baseless feedback either. Genderlocking has been frowned upon by the playerbase for a very long time to the point that any that was present in 1.0 was removed in 2.0, and SE have already shown us male viera.
    [Citation Needed] on where I said players couldn't, or even shouldn't give their feedback on this? And sure most people don't agree with genderlocking, but it does exist in this game in many cosmetic forms, and just because past racial genderlocking was undone doesn't exclude future ones from happening, especially when the director himself said he might do it for Viera specifically. There was also additional motivation to undo 1.0's genderlocking that is currently not present right now.

    Showing concept art =/= it will be added to the game.
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