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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    This isn't a hard confirmation because such things can exist for the sake of keeping the code consistent to prevent other issues down the line. Without seeing how other gender coding works for restricting gender locked clothes etc, it may be necessary for both gender coding to exist even if only one will be used. It provides evidence that it may not be genderlocked, but it's hard from an actual confirmation.
    Except this reasoning also throws into doubt Hrothgar. Meaning, why code for male female of somethign that is clearly gender locked and may not be in the game, much like why code for another race that is also gender locked and may or may not be in the game. It stands to reason that if you count Hrothgar as being somethign in the game because it was written in that coding, then it stands to reason that Male Viera would also based on the same evidence. If we say there is no conclusive evidence for male Viera, even if the coding is there, we can say the same for Hrothgar. You cant separate those two things from the same thread of logic. So either the code is evidence of two races with 2 genders, or it's evidence of neither and speculation.

    Considering what we have already seen, what people have been demanding, why it would be an unwise move on the developers part from both a marketing and PR standpoint, there's a lot going in favor of there being male Viera, and by that extension, a second race named Hrothgar (if we consider the leaks true).


    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    That NPC giving us lore about male viera also uses very strong language pointing to their exclusion rather than inclusion. Statements such as "don't go looking for them, you'll just end up disappointed" and "to us, they simply do not exist to us" paint a pretty strong picture against them, regardless of fluff about their role in viera society.
    I posted this in another thread but Ill post it here too because its relevant. The lore discussing viera happens in a 24 man raid, not MSQ. This distinction is important because while the lore is cannon, it is not mainstream. Meaning, players may not see ANY of the lore involved that is discussed if they skip the 24 man.

    Furthermore, if we take the leaks at face value and things are being retconned or added into older content, it is quite easy for SE to say "In the past, itd be rare to see a Male Viera" and put that into the dialogue. More so, from a lore stand point its easy to include their participation:

    - FFXIV MSQ stuff Happens.
    - Male Viera: Oh hey, we should probably help handle this cause it affects us too ultimately.
    - Everyone else: Oh Snaps! Look at all these male Viera come out of the wood works to do plot things for plot reasons.
    - Game goes on never really stopping to talk about why the male viera are out and about now any further.


    It really isnt hard to add this to lore, and it does zero in changing the old lore. It just changes the expectations of a small group of fans who are more in line with "This FFXIV game has to be exactly in line with FFXII and Tactics! So No male Viera!"
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    Last edited by Melichoir; 02-16-2019 at 04:39 AM.