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    Consider this:

    The Viera are, in spirit, the propriety of Ivalice and under the guiding hand of Matsuno.
    Yoshi and Matsuno are friends, and Yoshi brought Matsuno on board to guide the Return to Ivalice arc, and ensure it remains faithful to Ivalician lore.
    So it makes sense that Yoshi would respect Matsuno’s creations as his to have the final say on.
    Ivalician lore states that male Viera are so rare, that no non-Viera has ever seen them. To go against this would not merely be breaking FFXIV lore but Ivalice lore too, and in all likelihood, they may think that if male Viera were to ever be revealed it should be in an Ivalice title, not in what essentially amount to a fanservice a cameo in an MMO. It would basically be FFXIV stealing Ivalice’s thunder.

    So, how about they get around this, by introducing a FFXIV unique race, who in FFXIV lore are related to the Viera, but this does not step on the toes of Mastuno’s Ivalice.
    This new FFXIV exclusive race, related to Viera, are predominantly male, or are entirely non-dimorphic/asexual, but look masculine.
    This new race are called the Hrothgar, they’re large, hare-like people, with manes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Consider this:

    Yoshi and Matsuno are friends, and Yoshi brought Matsuno on board to guide the Return to Ivalice arc, and ensure it remains faithful to Ivalician lore.
    So it makes sense that Yoshi would respect Matsuno’s creations as his to have the final say on.
    Ivalician lore states that male Viera are so rare, that no non-Viera has ever seen them. To go against this would not merely be breaking FFXIV lore but Ivalice lore too, and in all likelihood, they may think that if male Viera were to ever be revealed it should be in an Ivalice title, not in what essentially amount to a fanservice a cameo in an MMO. It would basically be FFXIV stealing Ivalice’s thunder.
    FFXIV lore =/= Ivalice Alliance lore, Rabanastre (FFXII) was not built over Lesalia (FFTactics). In FFXIV, the Ivalice of FFXII come AFTER the one from FFTacticsn while in the real Ivalice, FFTactics is set in the FUTURE of FFXII.
    Not everything is respected in FFXIV, why would male vieras be an exception ?

    To go against this would not merely be breaking FFXIV lore but Ivalice lore too
    So what ? The Ivalice raid itself break the lore of Ivalice.

    they may think that if male Viera were to ever be revealed it should be in an Ivalice title
    Oh yeah ? It's not like the last FF game set in Ivalice is Tactics Advance 2, released 12 years ago. We will not wait Square Enix to make a new Ivalice game to get a complete race in FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Kupocoubo; 02-15-2019 at 11:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupocoubo View Post
    FFXIV lore =/= Ivalice Alliance lore, Rabanastre (FFXII) was not built over Lesalia (FFTactics). In FFXIV, the Ivalice of FFXII come AFTER the one from FFTacticsn while in the real Ivalice, FFTactics is set in the FUTURE of FFXII.
    Not everything is respected in FFXIV, why would male vieras be an exception ?
    It would basically be FFXIV stealing Ivalice’s thunder.

    Male Viera would be a big thing, and they're a creation of Ivalice, not FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It would basically be FFXIV stealing Ivalice’s thunder.

    Male Viera would be a big thing, and they're a creation of Ivalice, not FFXIV.
    Yes it will be a big thing, and Square will get mad money thanks to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupocoubo View Post
    Yes it will be a big thing, and Square will get mad money thanks to that.
    Depends on their design. If they're ugly af no one will bother fantasia only the fanatics.
    Look at the SWTOR's drama over the male Togruta design.

    What we wanted :


    What we ended up with :


    So I won't bother fantasia if they pull up the same disaster with the Viera.
    I'd rather have an other good looking race if they can't model the male Viera properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiddyBatnana View Post
    Depends on their design. If they're ugly af no one will bother fantasia only the fanatics.
    That's precisely why I thought male ronso only instead of male vieras would be a bad idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupocoubo View Post
    FFXIV lore =/= Ivalice Alliance lore, Rabanastre (FFXII) was not built over Lesalia (FFTactics). In FFXIV, the Ivalice of FFXII come AFTER the one from FFTacticsn while in the real Ivalice, FFTactics is set in the FUTURE of FFXII.
    Not everything is respected in FFXIV, why would male vieras be an exception ?
    Agree here. The next Final Fantasy title could be another Ivalice game and could still reveal Male Viera's. Its all up to the Ivalice creator wether he wants them to exist/shown or not. I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by BiddyBatnana View Post
    What if they look way better than the Viera ?
    Doesnt change the fact that genderlocking races is shit.
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