
So would you mind linking me your source? I keep looking at the JP forums and i don't see the craziness like here but I am superrr interested in reading their perspectives!



Sure, it'll take me some digging since my likes on twitter are a mess but I remember seeing some REALLY vitriolic threads on JP twitter.
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An edit like 2 hours later :
Bah. Normally I find my JP comments pretty easily but straight up, I cannot find the thread I first read. I don't know if it's been deleted or what. Without proof, it's all hearsay, so just ignore what I said previously. But I swear on me mum I wasn't imagining it. What seems to be up now is a lot of singular posts pining for male Viera politely or doing male Viera art. A lot of JP people want shota bunnies, so take that as you will (oh no). We did get a shout out on JP forums for making a stink here though. ;^)
Perhaps in the end, Yoshi-P and Co. are oblivious to what is being said, although I doubt a thread like this isn't being watched and relayed in some aspects even if we aren't JP.
Also, why is there no PM function on these forums...?
Last edited by Tsumdere; 02-17-2019 at 11:08 AM.
This exactly. They've told us time and time again that making races takes a whole lot of resources, so I find it rather strange how there's apparently 2 different races? Wouldn't it just have been easier to do male and female Viera and leave it at that, I feel like most people were expecting it and it's a rather safe bet. March 22nd can't come soon enough.Honestly, with the number of documented times they've talked about development cost constraints (SE treats FFXIV as a cashcow and draws a ton of profit from it without giving them much of an increased budget for development), why even make a second race? It has to be considerably easier to just make male and females, avoid all the ire from the vocal minority and develop gear for the male counterpart to the females.
So I am really interested in their reasoning at this point. I need the JP fanfest now lol.
I just have trouble believing the people that want male viera are the minority though, given all the communication the EU fanfest has caused in both the east and west. I mean, like you said, maybe we're just vocal but it seems to be coming from all directions. Male viera have been talked about since FF12 even. I don't think the demand for them to be out of left field at all.

Logically, if you took the time to count the number of people in this thread that "care" for the number of active players in the latest player count... This thread is just the same 30 to maybe at a high estimate 100 (gonna round up even more 500) players talking about this. Most players are going to be a bit peeved but not enough to do about it. So for NA alone, you're looking at maybe less than 1% the total active player base?I just have trouble believing the people that want male viera are the minority though, given all the communication the EU fanfest has caused in both the east and west. I mean, like you said, maybe we're just vocal but it seems to be coming from all directions. Male viera have been talked about since FF12 even. I don't think the demand for them to be out of left field at all.
That's a minority.
Also, I didn't count so hence the high estimate. I am happy to have someone count.
Well, the OF isn't the entire playerbase though. A lot of people that play the game never even post here. I just recently joined it myself. Lots of people stick to reddit or their own discords or whatever. Trying to get an actual count of the people who care would be pretty impossible if you ask me.Logically, if you took the time to count the number of people in this thread that "care" for the number of active players in the latest player count... This thread is just the same 30 to maybe at a high estimate 100 (gonna round up even more 500) players talking about this. Most players are going to be a bit peeved but not enough to do about it. So for NA alone, you're looking at maybe less than 1% the total active player base?
That's a minority.
Also, I didn't count so hence the high estimate. I am happy to have someone count.
People keep going on like only the JP/NA/EU player's desires/tastes count. They seem to be forgetting the large player bases in the Korean and Chinese markets. People often talk about how genderlocking is a staple of Korean MMO's, so new genderlocked races couldn't possibly be catering to that crowd? Especially when those are areas they would likely look to be increasing their playerbase even more as they may have reached a plateau in the NA/EU/JP regions.
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Increasing market share in another region is one thing. Doing it at the expense of their existing market shares in three other regions is counter-productive in the extreme. Also, as a counter-point to this the next Korean MMO making its way west this year, Astellia Online, has gender locks in the Korean build but the developers are busy removing them for the version intended for American and European markets. Not to mention their North American and European player base has been increasing the last year or so. That is why both the EU and NA are getting new datacenters specifically to accommodate that growing player base.People keep going on like only the JP/NA/EU player's desires/tastes count. They seem to be forgetting the large player bases in the Korean and Chinese markets. People often talk about how genderlocking is a staple of Korean MMO's, so new genderlocked races couldn't possibly be catering to that crowd? Especially when those are areas they would likely look to be increasing their playerbase even more as they may have reached a plateau in the NA/EU/JP regions.
Last edited by Karl0217; 02-17-2019 at 01:13 PM.



To sum it up: Gender locked important content=trash game.Increasing market share in another region is one thing. Doing it at the expense of their existing market shares in three other regions is counter-productive in the extreme. Also, as a counter-point to this the next Korean MMO making its way west this year, Astellia Online, has gender locks in the Korean build but the developers are busy removing them for the version intended for American and European markets.
There's that inflated notion that adding one pair of genderlocked races will somehow majorly damage the game in the west. You people are delusional at this point, I swear.Increasing market share in another region is one thing. Doing it at the expense of their existing market shares in three other regions is counter-productive in the extreme. Also, as a counter-point to this the next Korean MMO making its way west this year, Astellia Online, has gender locks in the Korean build but the developers are busy removing them for the version intended for American and European markets.
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