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  1. #1
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    cicatriz313's Avatar
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    Fayt Azuresky
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    Well, at least pictures is a better way to ask for them than whiny complaining.
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    Lacan's Avatar
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    Ceolred Stone
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    I just hope Yoshi wouldn't deprive the entire playbase of something just because he didn't care for it personally. I mean, I have a lot of respect for the guy. I can't see him doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I just hope Yoshi wouldn't deprive the entire playbase of something just because he didn't care for it personally. I mean, I have a lot of respect for the guy. I can't see him doing that.
    If there are no male Vieras, I'm sure there are a lot more reasons behind it than just his personal preference. Like who knows what it takes to run a whole division of a game, I'm sure the guy knows what's awaiting him after that kind of decision and has justification. Also I don't know if it's being deprived of something if it was never promised in the first place. That wording is a bit triggering lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    If there are no male Vieras, I'm sure there are a lot more reasons behind it than just his personal preference. Like who knows what it takes to run a whole division of a game, I'm sure the guy knows what's awaiting him after that kind of decision and has justification. Also I don't know if it's being deprived of something if it was never promised in the first place. That wording is a bit triggering lol.
    Announcing a race and only making one of the genders playable is definitely depriving people of something, doesn't matter if it was promised or not.
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    Wonder Noblesse
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    If there are no male Vieras, I'm sure there are a lot more reasons behind it than just his personal preference. Like who knows what it takes to run a whole division of a game, I'm sure the guy knows what's awaiting him after that kind of decision and has justification. Also I don't know if it's being deprived of something if it was never promised in the first place. That wording is a bit triggering lol.
    Lalalalalala I'm sick of hearing people whine about lore when they're about to add a flying car to the game as a mount and all of my neighbors have Carbuncle houses. The player character is unique and can do and be whatever they want. Following the lore to the letter would mean no cat boys, only one white mage, only one dark knight, etc. It's not a usable excuse to justify not including male Viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    Lalalalalala I'm sick of hearing people whine about lore when they're about to add a flying car to the game as a mount and all of my neighbors have Carbuncle houses. The player character is unique and can do and be whatever they want. Following the lore to the letter would mean no cat boys, only one white mage, only one dark knight, etc. It's not a usable excuse to justify not including male Viera.
    I... didn't say anything about lore? Are you going crazy now guy?
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    Dyslexius Nervar
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    If there are no male Vieras, I'm sure there are a lot more reasons behind it than just his personal preference. Like who knows what it takes to run a whole division of a game, I'm sure the guy knows what's awaiting him after that kind of decision and has justification. Also I don't know if it's being deprived of something if it was never promised in the first place. That wording is a bit triggering lol.
    Oh yeah, I just hope the reason behind it isn't something that's going to scratch my head and go 'Well that's lame story writing.' If it's gripping, amazing storytelling which fits into the near-apocalyptic calamity of a whole world just being purged by light - where history has to be remade and fixed in order to avoid it? Then yeah, I expect it to be something dark. Not, 'they're here, they're watching, you just can't see them'. Which always got me really, since WoL in past scenes always seems to notice when they're being watched? I remember those scenes where my character turns around and does little head tilts because he's sure he's being watched.

    I can sit back and clap my hands if something insane happens, where all the male Viera unite into this twisted abomination that rampages through the wood - as a last-ditch attempt - to push back their enemies, the ultimate sacrifice for their family. But I'd want to see that. I want to see the action! I wouldn't be happy with just flavour text. I've been waiting since FF12 - since tactics wasn't my thing as a child - to see the mysterious male viera. If they're going down, I wish to see them go down in flames and glory. I want to see the emotion! Heck, I want to be a male Viera and see my kin go through this! That to me is some epic storytelling, drama, emotion and excitement.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 02-18-2019 at 03:55 AM.

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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Oh yeah, I just hope the reason behind it isn't something that's going to scratch my head and go 'Well that's lame story writing.' If it's gripping, amazing storytelling which fits into the near-apocalyptic calamity of a whole world just being purged by light - where history has to be remade and fixed in order to avoid it? Then yeah, I expect it to be something dark. Not, 'they're here, they're watching, you just can't see them'. Which always got me really, since WoL in past scenes always seems to notice when they're being watched? I remember those scenes where my character turns around and does little head tilts because he's sure he's being watched.

    I can sit back and clap my hands if something insane happens, where all the male Viera unite into this twisted abomination that rampages through the wood - as a last-ditch attempt - to push back their enemies, the ultimate sacrifice for their family. But I'd want to see that. I want to see the action! I wouldn't be happy with just flavour text. I've been waiting since FF12 - since tactics wasn't my thing as a child - to see the mysterious male viera. If they're going down, I wish to see them go down in flames and glory. I want to see the emotion! Heck, I want to be a male Viera and see my kin go through this! That to me is some epic storytelling, drama, emotion and excitement.
    This would be really awesome! It would be absolutely epic and emotional to see your people absolutely razed to the ground and you are their last bastion of hope. It still wouldn't change the fact that the beginning of the game takes place many years before anything would happen to the male Viera, so there really would be no reason for a male Viera not to leave before then...
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    Pixiehawk's Avatar
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    Pixie Hawk
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    Uhm... why are people thinking female only to start, then unlocking male later? Unless unlocking it gives a free Fantasia it would piss off all the Mogshop haters, and a lot of people who dont care currently about the MogShop.

    It'll either be locked or not locked, not unlockable through gameplay. I'm personally guessing not locked, but since I'm not planning on more than maybe an alt I dont really care. I just dont understand the unlock during gameplay idea.

    Or am I misunderstanding the idea.
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixiehawk View Post
    Uhm... why are people thinking female only to start, then unlocking male later? Unless unlocking it gives a free Fantasia it would piss off all the Mogshop haters, and a lot of people who dont care currently about the MogShop.

    It'll either be locked or not locked, not unlockable through gameplay. I'm personally guessing not locked, but since I'm not planning on more than maybe an alt I dont really care. I just dont understand the unlock during gameplay idea.

    Or am I misunderstanding the idea.
    I think the "unlock it later" crew are saying they release females, then the players backlash because of course they will, and then se will be like "oh people actually wanted this??? We had no ideaa!!!" or "We couldn't finish this race in time so buy it now and we'll update it later because race releases can be partially release gated like raid releases" and then they finish the race later like they did for male miqo'te, female roegadyn, and female highlander.
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