Gender locked race?

[Lauront]

His preference is clear as day. Ragging on people who want feminine bunnies is not a preference, however. This is especially so when you consider he was wanting to keep the playability limited based on lore, something the rest of the races already ignore anyways. I'm not saying he's homophobic, but you can certainly voice your concerns without bashing a certain group of people.

And yes, gay people can indeed be homophobic. It certainly does tend to be the masc4masc/bara leaning gay guys who insult anything remotely feminine. See: "I'm gay because I like guys not girls" which is an incredibly homophobic remark, which refers to feminine men as girls. As if there's anything wrong with behaving like a girl or that it makes you any less gay and a man.

Sounds more like a dislike of feminine men than homophobia, as such.

[Tabbs]

Sounds more like a dislike of feminine men than homophobia, as such.

Often this is the way straight people's homophobia is. They dislike the mannerisms of feminine men. It's homophobic for them, it's homophobic for us gays. Regardless, you have no reason to "dislike" feminine men. If it was not homophobic, it would still be bad... What did they do to make you dislike them? It's one thing to have preferences, but "disliking" them implies more than a preference.

[Lauront]

Often this is the way straight people's homophobia is. They dislike the mannerisms of feminine men. It's homophobic for them, it's homophobic for us gays. Regardless, you have no reason to "dislike" feminine men. If it was not homophobic, it would still be bad... What did they do to make you dislike them? It's one thing to have preferences, but "disliking" them implies more than a preference.

His reasons are his own to have/justify. In the end, a dislike is just a preference against, as opposed to in favour of, something. And when it comes to playable races, he may just want the range of bara/hyper-masculine options expanded. Given the range of customisability SE offers when adding a race, it's pretty much going to fit a given archetype and little else besides. They've only violated this pattern for one race. As much as I'd like for the au ra subraces to be dimorphous, they probably won't be, and that's assuming they even add the males!

FWIW, my own preference would be along the lines of the races I mentioned in my earlier post. I'm pretty much selfishly hoping for that as opposed to overly twinky/feminine or overly bearish/masculine.

Also unless we can keep this about rabbits I'm thinking this should be our last row on the topic, at least for me - feels a bit straying (even if it started about feminine rabbits).

Agreed.

[Colino]

What did they do to make you dislike them? It's one thing to have preferences, but "disliking" them implies more than a preference.

It doesn't really. Disliking something means just that, not liking it. That doesn't mean hating or being afraid of it which is what a phobia is. People can feel more than 0% or 100% about something, you can feel "meh" or in-between about something and just not care or "like" it. I'd personally feel the same about bunny boys but at the same time I'm completely impartial and don't care because people can like what they like even when I don't and it wouldn't affect me since I'm unlikely to change from lalafell after 8+ years anyway. Anyway sorry to bring that back up.

I quite like some of the designs that were posted here, I definitely see the case for the burly bunny-men too. If lion-people are true they could go both ways and try to please everyone right?

[Roda]

Sounds more like a dislike of feminine men than homophobia, as such.

There's a word for that, but currently it's one of the big sore spots to poke for flame wars on the internet right now, so I'm going to avoid using it to save this thread from a shouting contest and potential moderator action. =.=

That being said, the consideration and accommodation of one person's tastes does not have to nullify the chance at another person getting their wishes fulfilled.

Roda wants this


as much as she wants this


But with Viera officially confirmed, I'm going to continue to push that they should finish that race before they even think about introducing another race.
And since Au Ra were introduced with.... disarming dimorphism for the females as compared to the males, I'm going to be firmly in the camp of the Viera males should at least be shorter (not girlier, not childish or boyish, but shorter) to 1, add some uniqueness to the race as a whole since no other race in xiv has that specific dimorphism (I'd also enjoy it if the females got all the vibrant hair colors taken from their initial creation pallet, and the males got all the dull hair colors taken from theirs to suggest a bird-like dimorphism too. Aestetistician can restore the usual colors with dyes) and 2, to kind of balance out what each gender gets since, Au Ra gave the males 1 more tall race, and the females 1 more short race. With tall viera females, and small viera males we'd at least all be on the same footing again.

I'll be able to critique more on the mystery race when it's more than vague leaks and old localization beta text bugs.