Gender locked race?

[stopatfiveorsixstores]

Regardless, surely they'd know that adding supposedly genderlocked races means they'd get requests for the opposite sex. They'll cave eventually, I think. The silver lining: If we don't get male viera/lionesses in 5.0, we'll get them eventually, as long as we keep asking for them. Just offering some positivity in the worst case scenario that both Viera and Hrothgar are genderlocked.

[Hunky]

time to be a fun-fact police and say "Well actually lionesses can grow manes." It's just kind of a thing that happens.

That's true. There have been lionesses that grow manes.

If there were to be female Hrothgar, then of course they'd probably have access to all the current female hairstyles (including the long ones). Perhaps then that line of "majestic mane" would apply as well.

[Serenno]

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The Au Ra thing isn't any sort of sign, it's just because in French if you're going to say Le/La and the following noun starts with a vowel, it becomes L' . It's actually a language thing. And Beau appeared because the person who talked to the npc was male but you're right! It'd say "belle" instead for female.

[Yasminou]

I hope this makes sense because I'm not sure which words to use - Why would Hrothgar and Viera be listed with both male and female pronouns and descriptors? Some are saying it's for consistency in the code, but Au Ra are written in as just l'Ao Ra while everyone else is la Viera/le Viera. They've established a precedent for reducing the race code to just one instance of it, so why couldn't they just write one la/le for Hrothgar and Viera? Not to mention, there was flat out shown to be an instance of an NPC describing a Viera as "beau" when they could have used "belle". Strange to call a woman "handsome". Then again, I don't speak French.

For au ra, in this example, whether the player character is male or female, the output will always be l'Ao ra so there is no need to check the gender. But if the output were pretty/handsome au ra, it would have been distinguished into le bel ao ra / la belle ao ra.

However, even if Viera and the other race are genderlocked, we could imagine that in the future, they will not. Therefore, putting the code to distinguish the output now is a good way to prevent any bug later after the implementation of their other gender.

[HadesNight]

SE is allowed to make their FFXIV races genderlocked no matter what type of lions are in other games. They get to create their lore from the ground up if they call this race by any other name than Ronso.

Calling them Ronso would come with the expectation that it follows the standards from FFX and there are female Ronso. But saying "hey we created a new race unique to FFXIV". Lore wouldn't dictate that there needs to be females unless they wanted that.

To clarify, I personally rather not hear the whining, so I want male Viera just to sate the "I deserve to be a male bunny even though more than 50% of irl males in this game play girl characters. "

But overall if we got a masculine male lion race with decent facial hair/beard options (I'd assume that's the trade off to the fact women Viera are getting optional bangs) that would be ridiculously cool!

[HadesNight]

For au ra, in this example, whether the player character is male or female, the output will always be l'Ao ra so there is no need to check the gender. But if the output were pretty/handsome au ra, it would have been distinguished into le bel ao ra / la belle ao ra.

However, even if Viera and the other race are genderlocked, we could imagine that in the future, they will not. Therefore, putting the code to distinguish the output now is a good way to prevent any bug later after the implementation of their other gender.

Or... It's a copy paste of existing code that has male/female identifiers and it's ok to leave that in because even if there is only female Viera and Male lions, the if/then statement would only ever use the one.

Considering the numerous amount of instances that code is probably in the French Localizations version of the game I wouldn't be surprised if they copied and pasted the new Viera/Lion code in just to save time so it's uniform and didn't require a difference.

[Yasminou]

Or... It's a copy paste of existing code that has male/female identifiers and it's ok to leave that in because even if there is only female Viera and Male lions, the if/then statement would only ever use the one.

Considering the numerous amount of instances that code is probably in the French Localizations version of the game I wouldn't be surprised if they copied and pasted the new Viera/Lion code in just to save time so it's uniform and didn't require a difference.

Perhaps my words did not translate well my thoughts, but I do not disagree with you. The gender check of these two new race is unconsequential if they are genderlocked and needed if they are not. Therefore copy-pasting existing code was a solution.

[xbahax92]

Since we do not get any new transport-possibility, as in flying, swimming... and also no content like Eureka being announced during the Fan Festivals, there is simply not much being offered in this expansion

The same things as in:
2 new jobs+level cap increase
New Zones, New Story
New Beast tribes + new primals
New 24 man raid + new 8 man raid
and few QoL stuff like New Game + (which I doubt will take to many resources, as in create new maps etc)

I could imagine that they worked on 2 races - as they had not to work on new eureka-type content or working on swimming on all areas (+the ability itself, implementing it wisely into the story, etc) which would usually eat a lot of development resources. Meaning, more time for a second race.. maybe.

[Metsonm]

and also no content like Eureka being announced during the Fan Festivals, there is simply not much being offered in this expansion

We haven't had a slide on it yet, but I'm pretty sure I remember Koji saying they're working on Eureka-like content, probably to be shown at Tokyo so as to not take the spotlight from Hydatos.

[BillyKaplan]

copy-pasting existing code was a solution.

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That's never a solution. I will repeat myself just because that sort of thing is such a berserk button for me - the text is probably made up from separate checks for gender and race. What the text is likely made up from is [gender indicator] [race indicator]. In which case there is only one place in the code that would have to change as far as texts go and that's the pool of race names the character can belong to.
For gender locked races - which I hope we won't really get - the [gender indicator] check will still happen but will only ever show the one result since the other isn't available to player characters.