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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Not all healers want to play Scholar. Its the most unique of all the jobs, but its still an option within my role even if I don't play it often. If dancer is a physical healer, not everyone will like physical healers, but its still a healing option.
    A scholar is still a caster that is proficient in healing, just like white mage and astrologian. It is no more unique among healer than a summoner is unique among caster DPS. A caster DPS, however, plays more differently than a ranged physical DPS or melee DPS.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    A scholar is still a caster that is proficient in healing, just like white mage and astrologian. It is no more unique among healer than a summoner is unique among caster DPS. A caster DPS, however, plays more differently than a ranged physical DPS or melee DPS.
    Exactly this. There's less of a difference between playing White Mage and playing Scholar than there is between playing Dragoon and playing Black Mage.

    Some like to sum it up with "DPS all you're doing is trying to put out big numbers!" and that's true, but how you get there is wildly different between melee jobs verses caster verses ranged jobs, not to mention how each job has to handle certain types of mechanics. For example, melee don't have to plan ahead for mechanics that do cone attacks off the enemy since they can react quickly, while casters don't ever think about point blank AOEs because they're never in them to start with.

    Scholar and White Mage, though, have their major difference being "do I cast my AOE heal before or after the damage goes out?" Yes, they're different playstyles, and yes there are other differences between the jobs just like how there are differences between the tanks and between the DPS jobs, but they do hold many more similarities than differences, especially when it comes to how the two jobs need to think about how to handle raid mechanics.
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  3. #43
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    It will be a healer. Then we will not see another new tank or healer until 7.0 and sadly I doubt that.

    I am still amazing by the amount of dps only players who want another job and dont want new jobs for tanks and healers.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    I am still amazing by the amount of dps only players who want another job and dont want new jobs for tanks and healers.
    I don't think it's about not wanting new jobs for tanks or healers, at least that's not the case for me. I don't really care for a new DPS job either. It's just that, if they are bringing dancer, I'd like that job specifically to be a DPS so I can try it out more. Ultimately, they can introduce any number of jobs to any and/or all roles and I'll play whichever ones are interesting for me in the roles that I can play.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I don't think it's about not wanting new jobs for tanks or healers, at least that's not the case for me. I don't really care for a new DPS job either. It's just that, if they are bringing dancer, I'd like that job specifically to be a DPS so I can try it out more. Ultimately, they can introduce any number of jobs to any and/or all roles and I'll play whichever ones are interesting for me in the roles that I can play.

    You can try it out no matter what it doesn't have to be made a dps so you can brain dead try it out
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I don't think it's about not wanting new jobs for tanks or healers, at least that's not the case for me. I don't really care for a new DPS job either. It's just that, if they are bringing dancer, I'd like that job specifically to be a DPS so I can try it out more. Ultimately, they can introduce any number of jobs to any and/or all roles and I'll play whichever ones are interesting for me in the roles that I can play.
    "I wish Dark knight would be a dps"
    "I wish samurai would be a dps"
    "I wish gunbreaker would be a dps"
    "I wish Dancer would be a dps"

    Sure you don't care if tanks or healers get new classes but god forbid they get something you might like. They should just get some boring uninteresting class as to not make dps players jealous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    You can try it out no matter what it doesn't have to be made a dps so you can brain dead try it out
    I tried being brain dead DPS, then tanks complain that I should watch my aggro and healers complain that I should watch my health so they can just focus on tank and their own damage instead. /shrug
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    "I wish Dark knight would be a dps"
    "I wish samurai would be a dps"
    "I wish gunbreaker would be a dps"
    "I wish Dancer would be a dps"

    Sure you don't care if tanks or healers get new classes but god forbid they get something you might like. They should just get some boring uninteresting class as to not make dps players jealous.
    As if you don't do that? Or anyone else? A tank main would want interesting jobs to be tank, and healer main would want interesting jobs to be a healer.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I tried being brain dead DPS, then tanks complain that I should watch my aggro and healers complain that I should watch my health so they can just focus on tank and their own damage instead. /shrug As if you don't do that? Or anyone else? A tank main would want interesting jobs to be tank, and healer main would want interesting jobs to be a healer.
    Wow you have 2 move 2 inchs in order to dodge a red mark and just spam combos that requires to much thinking for you or not get hate before thank goes in... if thats the case just quit lol...

    Also that is different do you know how many jobs dps have 2 choice from there's pretty much a job for all types in dps.

    Yet healer has barrier with pet or regen or card 3 options only.

    As 4 tanks the only non booring one they got is drk
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  9. #49
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    "I wish Dark knight would be a dps"
    "I wish samurai would be a dps"
    "I wish gunbreaker would be a dps"
    "I wish Dancer would be a dps"

    Sure you don't care if tanks or healers get new classes but god forbid they get something you might like. They should just get some boring uninteresting class as to not make dps players jealous.
    You say that as if everyone doesn't want cool jobs in their role. Both tanks and DPS wanted DRK, SAM, and GNB. They're the Devil May Cry trio. I've accepted and am looking forward to GNB tank (I've had a feeling it would be tank for a long while), I just hope they do justice by it, personally.
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    Last edited by Dualgunner; 02-09-2019 at 08:11 AM.

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    As if you don't do that? Or anyone else? A tank main would want interesting jobs to be tank, and healer main would want interesting jobs to be a healer.
    No I don't, do you know why?

    Cause I can play all 3 roles. Yes I have a main class/role but I always have a class ready for whatever is needed. Right now I main Black Mage but play Warrior and Astro as well. Hell I spend more time on my alts sometimes since I run roulettes as them.
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