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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    As if you don't do that? Or anyone else? A tank main would want interesting jobs to be tank, and healer main would want interesting jobs to be a healer.
    I don't think so. I've never seen a tank say they want Dancer to be a tank. Nor a tank or healer say it about Rogue or RDM. There was some talk about SAM being tank, but that's because they had originally considered the concept before settling on DPS.

    There is a disproportionate number of DPS that want every new job to be DPS.
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    Last edited by Kaedan; 02-09-2019 at 02:23 PM.

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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    "I wish Dark knight would be a dps"
    "I wish samurai would be a dps"
    "I wish gunbreaker would be a dps"
    "I wish Dancer would be a dps"

    Sure you don't care if tanks or healers get new classes but god forbid they get something you might like. They should just get some boring uninteresting class as to not make dps players jealous.
    You say that as if everyone doesn't want cool jobs in their role. Both tanks and DPS wanted DRK, SAM, and GNB. They're the Devil May Cry trio. I've accepted and am looking forward to GNB tank (I've had a feeling it would be tank for a long while), I just hope they do justice by it, personally.
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    Last edited by Dualgunner; 02-09-2019 at 08:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I don't think it's about not wanting new jobs for tanks or healers, at least that's not the case for me. I don't really care for a new DPS job either. It's just that, if they are bringing dancer, I'd like that job specifically to be a DPS so I can try it out more. Ultimately, they can introduce any number of jobs to any and/or all roles and I'll play whichever ones are interesting for me in the roles that I can play.

    You can try it out no matter what it doesn't have to be made a dps so you can brain dead try it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    I tried being brain dead DPS, then tanks complain that I should watch my aggro and healers complain that I should watch my health so they can just focus on tank and their own damage instead. /shrug As if you don't do that? Or anyone else? A tank main would want interesting jobs to be tank, and healer main would want interesting jobs to be a healer.
    Wow you have 2 move 2 inchs in order to dodge a red mark and just spam combos that requires to much thinking for you or not get hate before thank goes in... if thats the case just quit lol...

    Also that is different do you know how many jobs dps have 2 choice from there's pretty much a job for all types in dps.

    Yet healer has barrier with pet or regen or card 3 options only.

    As 4 tanks the only non booring one they got is drk
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    Dyslexius Nervar
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    I really wish they would just give each class more than just one skill tree. ESO/SWTOR both have classes which can have different skill trees. Example; Assassin in SWTOR could be DPS or Tank.
    A sorcerer could be Healer or DPS.
    As for ESO, any class can be a healer/tank/dps

    The number of times I've wanted Warrior to have a DPS tree! Or DRK for that matter! But it will never happen ;3;

    Ah well, while I think the next class is indeed a healer for the 'balance' I can see why others would want Dancer to be a DPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I really wish they would just give each class more than just one skill tree. ESO/SWTOR both have classes which can have different skill trees. Example; Assassin in SWTOR could be DPS or Tank.
    A sorcerer could be Healer or DPS.
    As for ESO, any class can be a healer/tank/dps

    The number of times I've wanted Warrior to have a DPS tree! Or DRK for that matter! But it will never happen ;3;

    Ah well, while I think the next class is indeed a healer for the 'balance' I can see why others would want Dancer to be a DPs.
    So, I think the reason behind that is because FFXIV allows your character to learn all jobs. I don't play much of ESO, but SWTOR and WoW limit your character in terms of changing classes, so it's necessary for them to allow some flexibility in role in their classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I really wish they would just give each class more than just one skill tree. ESO/SWTOR both have classes which can have different skill trees. Example; Assassin in SWTOR could be DPS or Tank.
    A sorcerer could be Healer or DPS.
    As for ESO, any class can be a healer/tank/dps

    The number of times I've wanted Warrior to have a DPS tree! Or DRK for that matter! But it will never happen ;3;

    Ah well, while I think the next class is indeed a healer for the 'balance' I can see why others would want Dancer to be a DPs.
    It does not work well in ESO.
    Because of this illusion of freedom of choice you have a lot of abilities that are useless and no one use them at all and most of people just use the few same active skills and a ton of buffing and debuffing skills on top of it. This makes the combat in this game really boring and stale and seems like everyone uses the same build, especially stamina based characters they all use the same skills.
    ESO would be the last mmorpg i will take any class based things from, zenimax struggle to change it and doesnt even bother to try. FFXIV classes has more depth in them than any class in eso does, sure you could do many things on one character, but you cant really change a lot once you make it and lvl it up, the choices are super limited and you cant change your class spec on the fly due to the equipment and stats you have chosen. Also not all classes could do everything, templar for example was useless as on stamina build and only playable as a healer or magicka damage dealer with 2 skills you use all the time, at the time i played the game.
    Once you get into expert dungeons in eso, you are going to find out how useless your own character truly is and there are meta builds you have to follow in order to be useful, most of them limits your number of active skills that deals damage to bare minimum and force you to use a rotation of dozens of dots/buffs/debuffs all the time. Imagine playing a blackmage and having only fire 1 spell available and like 10 dots and buffs and debuffs to throw before you even try to use the fire spell, this is what i call a class design disaster.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-09-2019 at 04:48 PM.

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    Raim Surion
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    You DPS mains act like playing a tank or healer is going to a foreign country. Honestly, playing a tank isn't some crazy high responsibility role you might be thinking it is. You're just a melee DPS who goes in first. Same with healer which is doing DPS more often than its healing. If you say its boring, then isn't that just more of a case for necessitating a new more interesting tank and healer to play?
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    Sesile Kokoro
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    Lancer Lv 100
    They need another job to share equipment with DRG , cause equipment balance... Unless gunbreaker is a STR tank... That would be interesting. Then they need another dex Melee class to share with NIN
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    Tal Young
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    They need another job to share equipment with DRG , cause equipment balance. <snip> Then they need another dex Melee class to share with NIN
    7 equipment sets, 5 "roles".

    Wouldn't it be easier to just merge scouting/aiming and maiming/striking?

    Scouting/aiming especially feels entirely redundant, the sets have identical main stats and the same basic appearance. At least maiming is sometimes a visual copy of tank gear and has that weird 'higher pdef' gimmick going on.

    ... Unless gunbreaker is a STR tank... That would be interesting.
    All tanks already use STR for damage scaling.
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